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From: kilobug@freesurf.fr (Gaël Le Mignot)
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: openbkweb-0.0
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:42:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <plopm3wuk02soi.fsf@drizzt.kilobug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030215181211.GA12315@work.bitmover.com> (Larry McVoy's message of "Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:12:11 -0800")


 > One answer, maybe the only viable answer, is to use patents to protect
 > our technology.  To date we've been very sparing in where we have done
 > that, there are substantial chunks of BK without patent protection.  Some
 > leaders in the kernel group have privately told me to not ship BK without
 > patent protection.  That slows down how fast you get a better BK, it's not
 > something we can just wave our hands and make be so, it's lots of time and
 > money.  A single patent costs more than enough bandwidth to keep all of 
 > you happy for a year.  Whatever.  If you guys can't come to some sort
 > of consensus, then patents are the route we'll choose, even German law
 > respects patents.

European law,  for now, doesn't  allow software patents. For  the same
reason  that we  have a  right of  fair use,  and a  right  of reverse
engineering. We value freedom more than money. Maybe this will change,
but it'ld be the worse thing  that could happen to whole Free Software
movement - and even to the Open Source movement, and to most companies
that  do non-free  software too.  You  should speak  to lawyer  before
saying such false statements.

By threating to use patents to prevent us for ever using the same idea
as you do (even if they grew up in our own minds), you've just added a
last proof to the fact that you don't care at all about Free Software,
and even  Open Source  or the  Linux kernel, but  just care  about the
money you can earn.

This is your right, but don't  ask us to follow your rules then. Since
you are _not_ on our side.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-02-16 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-06  2:10 openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-06  2:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Dave Jones
2003-02-06  3:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06  4:23   ` openbkweb-0.0 Ben Collins
2003-02-06  4:37     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06  6:02       ` openbkweb-0.0 Willy Tarreau
2003-02-06  6:14         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-06 14:23         ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-13  2:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 11:55   ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-13 16:13     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:23       ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 16:46         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:56       ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-13 21:11       ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-13 21:18         ` openbkweb-0.0 Robert Love
2003-02-14 12:59           ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 22:05         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 22:56           ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14  6:02             ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14  6:30               ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-14 14:41                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:54                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 15:30                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 15:45                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-14 16:56                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 16:47                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 16:50                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 17:09                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 17:24                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 11:42                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 14:42                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Walrond
     [not found]                                   ` <1045342539.5130.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                                     ` <3E4F7E20.30905@walrond.org>
2003-02-16 20:18                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 20:23                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 21:18                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:48                                             ` ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0) John Bradford
2003-02-17 10:13                                               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 11:00                                                 ` John Bradford
2003-02-17 11:46                                                   ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 12:00                                                     ` John Bradford
2003-02-15  0:11                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  0:52                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  0:56                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  1:50                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15  1:01                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  2:00                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  2:41                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  3:11                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  3:30                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  5:00                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  5:32                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  7:24                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  6:20                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  7:27                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  2:13                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15  8:02                         ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:17                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-14 20:31             ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 22:02               ` openbkweb-0.0 Thomas Molina
2003-02-15  0:39                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 16:18                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-15 21:31                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19  9:57                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-19 10:43                         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 10:51                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-16 21:03                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-19  9:54                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-14 23:45               ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 23:57                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  0:45                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  1:05                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  1:13                       ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:18                         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:29                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  1:40                           ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:35                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  7:36                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-15  9:46                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 11:47                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 11:50                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:07                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-15 16:44                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:10                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 16:58                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-16 20:26                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:11                             ` openbkweb-0.0 John Jasen
2003-02-18 17:41                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 17:44                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 18:12                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 20:44                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 20:54                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16  4:08                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16  5:18                             ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-16  5:35                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 22:34                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-17  4:31                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-17 14:50                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-18 22:34                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19  8:31                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-19 15:11                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Paul Fulghum
2003-02-19 15:16                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-19 15:28                                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-19 15:47                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 21:56                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 21:52                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 22:04                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 22:11                           ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:24                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Morton
2003-02-15 22:44                               ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  0:15                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matt Reppert
2003-02-16  0:46                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  0:55                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  3:23                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16  5:22                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-16 11:08                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:22                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 David Woodhouse
2003-02-16 11:50                                             ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  9:58                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-02-16 14:42                       ` Gaël Le Mignot [this message]
2003-02-16 16:27                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-16 22:56                       ` bk2cvs [was Re: openbkweb-0.0] Pavel Machek
2003-02-18  0:19                         ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-18 11:22                           ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 17:19                             ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-14 20:28           ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 20:35             ` openbkweb-0.0 nick
2003-02-15  0:17               ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15 19:12 openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-02-15 20:42 ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-16 10:36   ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Mailhot

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