From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Duraid Madina <duraid@octopus.com.au>
Cc: arjanv@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] Re: web page on O(1) scheduler
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 22:03:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030521200344.GA3693@hh.idb.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ECBD0EA.70307@octopus.com.au>
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 05:18:02AM +1000, Duraid Madina wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>
> >if you had spent the time you spent on this colorful graphic on reading
> >SUS or Posix about what sched_yield() means
>
> Quoth the man page,
>
> "A process can relinquish the processor voluntarily without blocking by
> calling sched_yield. The process will then be moved to the end of the
> queue for its static priority and a new process gets to run."
>
This assumes the implementation uses queues, one per
priority level.
And even if it does, the process may be the only one with that
priority, making this a useless way of giving up "some time".
It'll still get rescheduled over and over and prevent
lower-priority processes from running.
> How you get from there to "I'm the least important thing in the system"
> is, once again, beyond me. And even if that were a reasonable
> interpretation of the word 'yield', you would still hope that more than
> one CPU would get something to do if there was enough work to go around.
> Agreed, "spinning" on sched_yield is a very naive way of doing
> spinlocks. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a simple and
> correct way. One would have hoped that calling sched_yield every few
> million cycles wouldn't break the scheduler.
The way I understand it, the scheduler doesn't "break". You just
get a lot of useless busy waiting.
Helge Hafting
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-21 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-21 6:49 David Mosberger
2003-05-21 9:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-21 10:40 ` [Linux-ia64] " Duraid Madina
2003-05-21 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-21 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-21 13:51 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-05-28 22:12 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030528180909.21414B-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.c om>
2003-05-29 5:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-02 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-06-04 4:07 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306020949520.3375-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-06-02 13:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-04 3:52 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-06-04 4:55 ` David Schwartz
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030603234616.16495B-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.c om>
2003-06-04 7:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-04 15:30 ` Jan Harkes
2003-05-21 19:18 ` Duraid Madina
2003-05-21 20:03 ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2003-05-21 22:59 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-21 15:18 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-23 1:07 ` [Linux-ia64] " Hans Boehm
2003-05-23 8:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-21 9:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-21 9:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-21 17:56 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-21 20:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-22 9:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-22 16:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-22 17:58 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-27 15:16 ` [case closed] " Mike Galbraith
2003-06-03 20:59 ` sched.c gives ICE [Was: Re: web page on O(1) scheduler] J.A. Magallon
2003-06-03 22:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-22 22:03 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-06-22 22:10 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-05-22 0:38 ` web page on O(1) scheduler Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.50L.0305212038120.5425-100000@imladris.surriel. com>
2003-05-22 5:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-22 14:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-22 16:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-25 9:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-21 18:31 ` [Linux-ia64] " David Mosberger
2003-05-21 20:00 ` Cyclades Cyclom-Y ISA on 2.5.69 John Stoffel
2003-05-23 17:48 [Linux-ia64] Re: web page on O(1) scheduler Boehm, Hans
2003-05-23 18:04 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-24 0:10 Boehm, Hans
2003-05-24 0:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-24 0:53 Boehm, Hans
2003-05-24 5:38 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-24 14:43 ` Davide Libenzi
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