From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:06:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030825210606.5912bac4.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030826031940.0CDDD2C243@lists.samba.org>
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew, Ingo,
>
> Ingo was (rightfully) concerned about the amount of memory
> which could be pinned using FUTEX_FD. This solution doesn't keep
> pages pinned any more: it hashes on mapping + offset, or for anonomous
> pages, uses a callback to move them out and back into the hash table
> as they are swapped out and in.
I have a bad feeling about this. We shall see...
> Searching the (256-bucket) hash table to find potential pages
> is fairly slow, but we're swapping anyway, so it's lost in the noise.
> The hash table is usually fairly empty.
>
> My only concern is for a race between swapping a page in and
> it being accessed, but I think I have the callbacks in the right place
> in the swap code: more VM-aware eyes welcome.
Looks to be OK: as long as the page is locked you can't go far wrong.
But end_swap_bio_read() is called from interrupt context. Hence the
spinlock you have in there needs to become IRQ safe.
Two issues:
a) what to do about futexes in file-backed pages? At present the
attacker can pin arbitrary amount of memory by backing it with a file.
Your solution won't scale to solving this, because we need to perform
a futex lookup on every add_to_page_cache(). (Well, it will scale
fairly well because add_to_page_cache() is ratelimited by the IO speed.
But it will still suck quite a bit for some people).
b) Assuming a) is solved: futexes which are backed by tmpfs. tmpfs
(which is a study in conceptual baroquenness) will rewrite page->mapping
as pages are moved between tmpfs inodes and swapper_space. I _think_
lock_page() is sufficient to serialise against this. If not, both
->page_locks are needed.
This of course will break your hashing scheme. Hooks in
move_to_swap_cache() and move_from_swap_cache() are needed.
So what to do? One option is to just not pin the pages at all: let them be
reclaimed and/or swapped out. Let the kernel fault them in. We have all
the stuff to do this over in fs/aio.c, with use_mm().
It does mean that the futex code would have to change its representation of
a futex's location from page/offset to mm/vaddr, and the futex code would
need to hook into the exit path, similar to exit_aio().
Or create RLIM_NRFUTEX.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-26 4:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-26 3:12 Rusty Russell
2003-08-26 4:06 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2003-08-26 5:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 5:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 6:14 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 7:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 7:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26 8:08 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 8:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26 8:25 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 9:02 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 10:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 10:44 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 10:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 17:29 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 19:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 5:17 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27 6:20 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-28 0:47 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-28 8:21 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-29 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-29 4:17 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-30 7:49 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 0:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 4:11 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 20:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 3:12 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-02 6:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 16:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 19:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 21:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 2:40 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 7:36 ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 11:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 19:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 2:43 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 8:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 12:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 16:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 18:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 20:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 22:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-05 3:55 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 1:30 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 21:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-05 5:19 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 20:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 6:45 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-07 13:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 1:49 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-08 9:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 2] Little fixes to previous futex patch Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 16:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 17:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 21:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-07 12:27 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-07 15:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 1:56 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-07 13:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 3:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-08 9:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-05 4:56 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 15:34 ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 1:35 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 17:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 0:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 1:16 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 1:54 ` Dave Hansen
2003-09-03 2:54 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 3:23 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 23:58 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27 8:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-27 8:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 10:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-27 10:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-28 8:03 ` Rusty Russell
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