From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:58:51 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308260155490.1912-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030825225011.2ad47c85.akpm@osdl.org>
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > but if all futexes pin down one page (worst-case), then to make it really
> > safe we'll have to use a fairly low default RLIM_NRFUTEX value - which
> > will decrease the generic utility of futexes.
>
> We could make it RLIM_NRFUTEX_PAGES: the number of pages which the user
> can pin via futexes, perhaps.
the problem is that this is not really a deterministic limit. The nr of
thread or open files limit is deterministic: it will either fail or
succeed at clone() or open() time - and can be freely used afterwards. The
kernel doesnt in fact know about the first use of a futex: no-contention
futexes have zero kernel footprint. This is the big plus of them. So i'd
really favor some sort of hashing method and no limits, that way the Linux
VM is extended and every VM address is waitable and wakable on - a pretty
powerful concept.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-26 5:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-26 3:12 Rusty Russell
2003-08-26 4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 5:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 5:58 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2003-08-26 6:14 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 7:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 7:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26 8:08 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 8:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26 8:25 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 9:02 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 10:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 10:44 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 10:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 17:29 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 19:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 5:17 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27 6:20 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-28 0:47 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-28 8:21 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-29 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-29 4:17 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-30 7:49 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 0:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 4:11 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 20:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 3:12 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-02 6:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 16:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 19:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 21:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 2:40 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 7:36 ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 11:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 19:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 2:43 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 8:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 12:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 16:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 18:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 20:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 22:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-05 3:55 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 1:30 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 21:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-05 5:19 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 20:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 6:45 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-07 13:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 1:49 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-08 9:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 2] Little fixes to previous futex patch Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 16:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 17:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 21:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-07 12:27 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-07 15:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 1:56 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-07 13:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 3:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-08 9:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-05 4:56 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 15:34 ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 1:35 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 17:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 0:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 1:16 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 1:54 ` Dave Hansen
2003-09-03 2:54 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 3:23 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 23:58 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27 8:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-27 8:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 10:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-27 10:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-28 8:03 ` Rusty Russell
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