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From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ide write barrier support
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:47:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031021004709.GA11523@merlin.emma.line.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031017180612.GB8230@suse.de>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Jens Axboe wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 17 2003, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> > Jens wrote:
> > 
> > >The problem is that as far as I can see the best way to make fsync
> > >really work is to make the last write a barrier write. That
> > >automagically gets everything right for you - when the last block goes
> > >to disk, you know the previous ones have already. And when the last
> > >block completes, you know the whole lot is on platter.
> > >
> > Are you sure?
> > What prevents the io scheduler from writing the last block before other 
> > blocks?
> 
> Very sure, the io scheduler will never put the barrier write before
> previously comitted writes. So yes, it will work as described.

If the "last block" is special however (containing a "complete" marker
for instance), the order needs to be:

write1 write2 write3 write4 barrier write-last barrier

This will guarantee write-last will happen after write4.

The drive is free to permute the order of write1 ... write4, no?

Manfred, was that your idea?

-- 
Matthias Andree

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-21  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-17 17:59 Manfred Spraul
2003-10-17 18:06 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-21  0:47   ` Matthias Andree [this message]
     [not found] <IXzh.61g.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-21 19:24 ` Anton Ertl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-17 18:42 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-17 16:07 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-17 18:08 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-16 20:51 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-17  6:48 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-16 16:51 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-16 20:43 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-17  6:44   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-17  6:46 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 14:08 Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 15:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-13 15:35   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 15:37     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 22:39 ` Matthias Andree
2003-10-14  0:16   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 10:36     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-16 10:46       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 10:48         ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-14  6:48   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-15  3:40 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-16  7:10   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-20 17:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-20 19:56   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-20 23:46     ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-21  5:40       ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-23 16:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-23 16:23           ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-23 17:20             ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-23 23:21               ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-26 21:06                 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-27 10:29                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-27 21:35                     ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-24  9:36               ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-26 15:38                 ` Daniel Phillips

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