more dbt-2 results hyperthreading on linux-2.6.0-test11

more dbt-2 results hyperthreading on linux-2.6.0-test11

[markw]

Hi Nick,

Here are the results of the comparisons I said I would do.

no-hyperthreading:
	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/282/
	- metric 2288.43
	- baseline

hyperthreading:
	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/278/
	- metric 1944.42
	- 15% throughput decrease
	
hyperthreading w/ Ingo's C1 patch:
	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/277/
	- metric 1978.39
	- 13.5% throughput decrease

hyperthreading w/ Nick's w26 patch:
	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/274/
	- metric 1955.91
	- 14.5% throughput decrease

It looks like there is some marginal benefit to your or Ingo's patches
with a workload like DBT-2.  I probably don't understand enough about
hyperthreading, but I wonder if there's something PostgreSQL can do to
take advantage of hyperthreading

Anyway, each link has pointers to readprofile and annotated oprofile
assembly output (if you find that useful.)  I haven't done enough tests
to have an idea of the error margin, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's
at least 1%.

Let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to try.

Thanks,
Mark

Re: more dbt-2 results hyperthreading on linux-2.6.0-test11

[markw]

Hi Jun,

DBT-2 is a fair use implementation of the TPC-C (OLTP), if you're
familiar with that.

I have 14 drives attached through 1 megaraid raid controller, and 52
drives connected through 4 channels on 2 mylex raid controllers, all in
a raid-0 configuration.  I am using LVM2 on both sets of drives.

iostat tells me that each of the 14 drives attached through the raid
controller are utilized < 2%, while each of the other 52 drives seem to
peak at about 48% in one of the hyperthreaded cases (274).  I'm not too
familiar with the umpteen other columns that iostat reports, but that
suggests to me I have a fair amount of i/o headroom. Unfortunitely, I
don't believe I can get my hands on any addition drives or
controllers...

Mark


On 12 Dec, Nakajima, Jun wrote:
> I'm not familiar with this particular workload, but noticed higher idle
> and wait time with HT enabled, compared to HT-disabled case. This kind
> of symptom often indicated insufficient I/O bandwidth from my
> experience, and faster systems (with more threads) tend to show lower
> throughput because you end up measuring disk seek time of more I/O
> requests. Can you add more disk controller(s) and disks?
> 
> Jun
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel-
>> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of markw@osdl.org
>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:28 PM
>> To: piggin@cyberone.com.au
>> Cc: mingo@redhat.com; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; pgsql-
>> hackers@postgresql.org
>> Subject: more dbt-2 results hyperthreading on linux-2.6.0-test11
>> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> Here are the results of the comparisons I said I would do.
>> 
>> no-hyperthreading:
>> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/282/
>> 	- metric 2288.43
>> 	- baseline
>> 
>> hyperthreading:
>> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/278/
>> 	- metric 1944.42
>> 	- 15% throughput decrease
>> 
>> hyperthreading w/ Ingo's C1 patch:
>> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/277/
>> 	- metric 1978.39
>> 	- 13.5% throughput decrease
>> 
>> hyperthreading w/ Nick's w26 patch:
>> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/274/
>> 	- metric 1955.91
>> 	- 14.5% throughput decrease
>> 
>> It looks like there is some marginal benefit to your or Ingo's patches
>> with a workload like DBT-2.  I probably don't understand enough about
>> hyperthreading, but I wonder if there's something PostgreSQL can do to
>> take advantage of hyperthreading
>> 
>> Anyway, each link has pointers to readprofile and annotated oprofile
>> assembly output (if you find that useful.)  I haven't done enough
> tests
>> to have an idea of the error margin, but I wouldn't be surprised if
> it's
>> at least 1%.
>> 
>> Let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to try.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark

RE: more dbt-2 results hyperthreading on linux-2.6.0-test11

[Nakajima, Jun]

I'm not familiar with this particular workload, but noticed higher idle
and wait time with HT enabled, compared to HT-disabled case. This kind
of symptom often indicated insufficient I/O bandwidth from my
experience, and faster systems (with more threads) tend to show lower
throughput because you end up measuring disk seek time of more I/O
requests. Can you add more disk controller(s) and disks?

Jun
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of markw@osdl.org
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:28 PM
> To: piggin@cyberone.com.au
> Cc: mingo@redhat.com; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; pgsql-
> hackers@postgresql.org
> Subject: more dbt-2 results hyperthreading on linux-2.6.0-test11
> 
> Hi Nick,
> 
> Here are the results of the comparisons I said I would do.
> 
> no-hyperthreading:
> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/282/
> 	- metric 2288.43
> 	- baseline
> 
> hyperthreading:
> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/278/
> 	- metric 1944.42
> 	- 15% throughput decrease
> 
> hyperthreading w/ Ingo's C1 patch:
> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/277/
> 	- metric 1978.39
> 	- 13.5% throughput decrease
> 
> hyperthreading w/ Nick's w26 patch:
> 	http://developer.osdl.org/markw/dbt2-pgsql/274/
> 	- metric 1955.91
> 	- 14.5% throughput decrease
> 
> It looks like there is some marginal benefit to your or Ingo's patches
> with a workload like DBT-2.  I probably don't understand enough about
> hyperthreading, but I wonder if there's something PostgreSQL can do to
> take advantage of hyperthreading
> 
> Anyway, each link has pointers to readprofile and annotated oprofile
> assembly output (if you find that useful.)  I haven't done enough
tests
> to have an idea of the error margin, but I wouldn't be surprised if
it's
> at least 1%.
> 
> Let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to try.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
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