From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>
Cc: Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:38:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040213003839.GB24981@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200402121655.39709.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>
Robin Rosenberg wrote:
Now consider the case with an external firewire
> disk or memory stick created on a machine with iso-8859-1 as the system character
> set and e.g xfs as the file system. What happens when I hook it up to a new redhat
> installation that thinks file names are best stored as utf8? Most non-ascii
> file names aren't even legal in utf8.
It goes wrong. This happens both with filesystems that know nothing
about encodings, e.g. ext3, and filesystems that need to be told what
to transcode to/from utf-8, e.g. ntfs.
It is also a problem that some applications access the filesystem
assuming utf-8 and some don't. Nothing in the filesystem can make the
different applications cooperate regarding these. E.g. I have
filenames that look fine in "ls" containg things like c-cedilla, but
xmms displays them wrongly.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-13 0:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-09 11:58 UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc Nico Schottelius
2004-02-09 12:26 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-09 12:28 ` Hugo Mills
2004-02-09 13:04 ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-09 13:36 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-10 4:32 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-10 4:53 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-10 9:46 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-10 23:04 ` jw schultz
2004-02-10 23:17 ` viro
2004-02-10 23:23 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-11 0:02 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-09 15:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-02-11 6:39 ` Tim Connors
2004-02-11 16:35 ` JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.) Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12 0:45 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-02-12 1:19 ` Tim Connors
2004-02-12 3:54 ` jw schultz
2004-02-12 12:03 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 8:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-12 15:55 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 16:17 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 16:40 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 17:16 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 18:06 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 19:08 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 19:39 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 21:13 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 22:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 22:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 2:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 9:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 3:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 15:24 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-13 0:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 0:38 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-02-13 1:16 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 1:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 1:46 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 2:29 ` viro
2004-02-13 3:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 15:09 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-15 1:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 14:03 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 14:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 19:22 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 15:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16 15:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 19:13 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 15:46 ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 15:48 ` viro
2004-02-16 16:43 ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 16:25 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-16 15:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 15:44 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 10:03 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 10:22 ` vda
2004-02-13 10:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 13:28 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12 15:26 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-12 15:41 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12 16:50 Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-12 18:12 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 3:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 10:07 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 18:06 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-13 18:15 ` viro
2004-02-13 18:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 18:31 ` viro
2004-02-13 20:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 18:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-13 22:39 ` Robin Rosenberg
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2004-02-13 10:26 ` Robin Rosenberg
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2004-02-13 17:57 ` Nicolas Mailhot
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2004-02-15 14:26 ` Pascal Schmidt
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2004-02-16 15:44 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 15:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2004-02-16 17:26 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 17:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16 19:48 ` Pascal Schmidt
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