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From: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	Nicolas Mailhot <Nicolas.Mailhot@laPoste.net>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 23:39:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200402132339.53924.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0402131325470.1895@chaos>

On Friday 13 February 2004 19.31, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 07:06:46PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > > And as for the filename problems :
> > > - just mangle existing invalid filenames when a default encoding is
> > > agreed upon
> > > - refuse to write new files with invalid filenames just like you would
> > > with the few names forbidden in ascii - apps will learn to cope.
> >
> > What names forbidden in ASCII?
> 
> I think that all ASCII characters below 0x20 are forbidden in
> Unix file-names and others shown in the reference cited and
> "disapproved".
> 
> http://www.med.nyu.edu/rcr/rcr/nyu_vms/unixfileanddirectorynames.htm

That's not really a formal definition of what's allowed. It's a recommendation
for users on how to avoid detecting applications that cannot handle all file names,
i.e. buggy applications. Try 

	touch "$(/bin/ls -1|head)"

and you will find apps that can handle the nice filename and those that cannot. I'm
definitely not endorsing them and it would probably be wise to implement a system policy that
allows administrators to ban such names as they represent security holes and all sorts of
problems.

Some filesystems forbid these names, but unix doesn't.

-- robin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-13 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-12 16:50 Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-12 18:12 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13  3:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 10:07   ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 18:06   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-13 18:15     ` viro
2004-02-13 18:24       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 18:31         ` viro
2004-02-13 20:27           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 18:31       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-13 18:50         ` JFS default behavior Ulrich Drepper
2004-02-13 22:39         ` Robin Rosenberg [this message]
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2004-02-16 17:26                       ` JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.) Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 17:58                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16 19:48                           ` Pascal Schmidt
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2004-02-15 14:26               ` Pascal Schmidt
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2004-02-16 15:44                   ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 15:59                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2004-02-13 17:57 ` Nicolas Mailhot
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2004-02-13 10:26 ` Robin Rosenberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-09 11:58 UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc Nico Schottelius
2004-02-11  6:39 ` Tim Connors
2004-02-11 16:35   ` JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.) Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12  0:45     ` Andy Isaacson
2004-02-12  1:19       ` Tim Connors
2004-02-12  3:54       ` jw schultz
2004-02-12 12:03         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12  8:54       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-12 15:55         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 16:17           ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 16:40             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 17:16               ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 18:06                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 19:08                   ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 19:39                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 21:13                       ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 22:29                         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 22:50                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13  2:58                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13  9:48                             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13  3:15                         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 15:24                     ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-13  0:17             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13  0:38           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13  1:16             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13  1:23               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13  1:46                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13  2:29               ` viro
2004-02-13  3:23                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 15:09                   ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-15  1:01                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 14:03                       ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 14:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 19:22                           ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 21:44                             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 15:18                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16 15:32                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 19:13                             ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 15:46                           ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 15:48                             ` viro
2004-02-16 16:43                               ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 16:25                             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-16 15:27                         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 15:44                         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 10:03                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 10:22                   ` vda
2004-02-13 10:29                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 13:28       ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12 15:26       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-12 15:41         ` Dave Kleikamp

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