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From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Santiago Leon <santil@us.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][2.6] IBM PowerPC Virtual Ethernet Driver
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:04:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040218050457.GZ8858@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402172044321.2686@home.osdl.org>

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:46:52PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > ago.  Any assumptions regarding their allocation are non-portable.
> 
> Well, to be fair, most compilers still aim to make them useful. 
> 
> There's a difference between "the standard doesn't guarantee anything" and 
> "the implementation makes no sense". 
> 
> (Sadly, a lot of compiler people do seem to look to standards more than
> actual users for guides to do things, but at the same time I do believe
> that gcc has useful semantics for bitfields and hardware accesses. You
> just have to know what the implementation-specific rules are)

True.  However, most of the bitfield uses I've seen would become much cleaner
from rewrite to explicit mask-and-shift stuff.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-18  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-17 22:48 Santiago Leon
2004-02-18  0:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-02-18  4:01   ` Dave Jones
2004-02-18  4:23     ` viro
2004-02-18  4:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18  5:03         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-02-18 16:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18  5:04         ` viro [this message]
2004-02-18  4:19   ` Keith Owens
2004-02-18  4:42     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18  4:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-20 23:26   ` Santiago Leon
2004-02-22 22:11 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-26  5:52 ` Jeff Garzik

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