From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com>,
riel@redhat.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.23aa2 (bugfixes and important VM improvements for the high end)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:52:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040304045212.GG4922@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040303200704.17d81bda.akpm@osdl.org>
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 08:07:04PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> That's a larger difference than I expected. But then, everyone has been
mysql is threaded (it's not using processes that force tlb flushes at
every context switch), so the only time a tlb flush ever happens is when
a syscall or an irq or a page fault happens with 4:4. Not tlb flush
would ever happen with 3:1 in the whole workload (yeah, some background
tlb flushing happens anyways when you type char on bash or move the
mouse of course but it's very low frequency)
(to be fair, because it's threaded it means they also find 512m of
address space lost more problematic than the db using processes, though
besides the reduced address space there would be no measurable slowdown
with 2.5:1.5)
Also the 4:4 pretty much depends on the vgettimeofday to be backported
from the x86-64 tree and an userspace to use it, so the test may be
repeated with vgettimeofday, though it's very possible mysql isn't using
that much gettimeofday as other databases, especially the I/O bound
workload shouldn't matter that much with gettimeofday.
another reason could be the xeon bit, all numbers I've seen were on p3,
that's why I was asking about xeon and p4 or more recent.
all random ideas, just guessing.
> mysteriously quiet with the 4g/4g benchmarking.
indeed.
> A kernel profile would be interesting. As would an optimisation effort,
> which, as far as I know, has never been undertaken.
yes, though I doubt you'll find anything interesting in the kernel, the
slowdown should happen because the userspace runs slower, it's like
undercloking the cpu, it's not a bottleneck in the kernel that can be
optimized (at least unless there are bugs in the patch which I think not).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-04 4:51 UTC|newest]
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2004-02-27 1:33 Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 4:38 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:49 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 21:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 21:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 3:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-01 11:10 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-02-27 21:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 22:03 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-28 2:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 4:57 ` Wim Coekaerts
2004-02-28 6:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 6:45 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 7:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 9:19 ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-18 2:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20040228061838.GO8834@dualathlon.random.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-28 12:46 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 1:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29 2:29 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 16:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 6:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 6:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 7:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 7:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 14:55 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-28 15:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-29 1:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` < 1078370073.3403.759.camel@abyss.local>
2004-03-04 3:14 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 3:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 3:44 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 4:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 4:44 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 4:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-03-04 5:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 5:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 20:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-05 20:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-04 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 16:21 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 17:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 18:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 19:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 20:21 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-05 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 14:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 15:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07 8:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 10:29 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08 5:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 18:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 19:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 19:55 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 20:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 14:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:02 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20040305150225.GA13237@elte.hu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-05 15:51 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-10 13:21 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 5:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 12:56 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-06 13:13 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-07 11:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 6:50 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-02 9:10 ` Kurt Garloff
2004-03-02 15:32 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 21:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-02-27 23:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-02-27 22:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29 6:34 ` Mike Fedyk
[not found] <20040304175821.GO4922@dualathlon.random>
2004-03-04 22:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 23:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 3:43 ` Rik van Riel
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2004-03-12 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-18 19:50 ` Peter Zaitsev
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2004-03-12 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
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