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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	riel@redhat.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.23aa2 (bugfixes and important VM improvements for the high end)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:15:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040305141504.GY4922@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040305103308.GA5092@elte.hu>

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:33:08AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > For Disk Bound workloads (200 Warehouse) I got 1250TPM for "hugemem" vs
> > > > 1450TPM for "smp" kernel, which is some 14% slowdown.
> > > 
> > > Please define these terms.  What is the difference between "hugemem" and
> > > "smp"?
> > 
> > Sorry if I was unclear.  These are suffexes from RH AS 3.0 kernel
> > namings.  "SMP" corresponds to normal SMP kernel they have, "hugemem"
> > is kernel with 4G/4G split.
> 
> the 'hugemem' kernel also has config_highpte defined which is a bit
> redundant - that complexity one could avoid with the 4/4 split. Another

the machine only has 4G of ram and you've an huge zone-normal, so I
guess it will offset not more than 1 point percent or so.

> detail: the hugemem kernel also enables PAE, which adds another 2 usecs
> to every syscall (!). So these performance numbers only hold if you are
> running mysql on x86 using more than 4GB of RAM. (which, given mysql's
> threaded design, doesnt make all that much of a sense.)

are you saying you force _all_ people with >4G of ram to use 4:4?!?
that would be way way overkill. 8/16/32G boxes works perfectly with 3:1
with the stock 2.4 VM (after you nuke rmap).

> vsyscall-sys_gettimeofday and vsyscall-sys_time could help quite some
> for mysql. Also, the highly threaded nature of mysql on the same MM

he said he doesn't use gettimeofday frequently, so most of the flushes
are from other syscalls.

> which is pretty much the worst-case for the 4/4 design. If it's an

definitely agreed.

> issue, there are multiple ways to mitigate this cost.

how? just curious.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-05 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-27  1:33 Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27  4:38 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 17:32   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 19:08     ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:29       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:49         ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:55           ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 21:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 21:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28  3:22             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-01 11:10           ` Nikita Danilov
2004-02-27 21:15         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 22:03           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 22:23             ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-28  2:32             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28  4:57               ` Wim Coekaerts
2004-02-28  6:18                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28  6:45                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28  7:05                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28  9:19                       ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-18  2:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                   ` <20040228061838.GO8834@dualathlon.random.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-28 12:46                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29  1:39                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29  2:29                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 16:34                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28  6:10               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28  6:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28  7:00                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28  7:29                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 14:55                       ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-28 15:06                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-29  1:43                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                           ` < 1078370073.3403.759.camel@abyss.local>
2004-03-04  3:14                           ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04  3:33                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04  3:44                               ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04  4:07                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04  4:44                                   ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04  4:52                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04  5:10                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04  5:27                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04  5:38                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 20:19                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-05 20:33                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:44                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-04 12:12                                     ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 16:21                                     ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 18:13                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 17:35                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 18:16                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 19:31                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 20:21                                     ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-05 10:33                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:15                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-03-05 14:32                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:58                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:26                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 15:53                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07  8:41                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 10:29                                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:33                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08  5:15                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:24                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:28                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 18:42                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 19:13                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 19:55                                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 20:29                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:41                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 21:07                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 22:12                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 14:34                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:59                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:02                                         ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                           ` <20040305150225.GA13237@elte.hu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-05 15:51                                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:23                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:39                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07  8:16                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-10 13:21                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:42                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 16:49                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:58                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:11                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06  5:12                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 12:56                                               ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-06 13:13                                                 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-07 11:55                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07  6:50                                           ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-02  9:10                 ` Kurt Garloff
2004-03-02 15:32                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 21:42         ` Hugh Dickins
2004-02-27 23:18         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-02-27 22:39           ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:31       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29  6:34       ` Mike Fedyk
     [not found] <20040304175821.GO4922@dualathlon.random>
2004-03-04 22:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 23:24   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05  3:43     ` Rik van Riel
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     [not found]                     ` <1x0qG-Dr-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-12 21:15                       ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-18 19:50                         ` Peter Zaitsev
     [not found]               ` <1woEJ-7Yx-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <1wp8c-7x-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]                       ` <1x293-2nT-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-12 21:25                         ` Andi Kleen

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