From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
riel@redhat.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.23aa2 (bugfixes and important VM improvements for the high end)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:15:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040305141504.GY4922@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040305103308.GA5092@elte.hu>
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:33:08AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com> wrote:
>
> > > > For Disk Bound workloads (200 Warehouse) I got 1250TPM for "hugemem" vs
> > > > 1450TPM for "smp" kernel, which is some 14% slowdown.
> > >
> > > Please define these terms. What is the difference between "hugemem" and
> > > "smp"?
> >
> > Sorry if I was unclear. These are suffexes from RH AS 3.0 kernel
> > namings. "SMP" corresponds to normal SMP kernel they have, "hugemem"
> > is kernel with 4G/4G split.
>
> the 'hugemem' kernel also has config_highpte defined which is a bit
> redundant - that complexity one could avoid with the 4/4 split. Another
the machine only has 4G of ram and you've an huge zone-normal, so I
guess it will offset not more than 1 point percent or so.
> detail: the hugemem kernel also enables PAE, which adds another 2 usecs
> to every syscall (!). So these performance numbers only hold if you are
> running mysql on x86 using more than 4GB of RAM. (which, given mysql's
> threaded design, doesnt make all that much of a sense.)
are you saying you force _all_ people with >4G of ram to use 4:4?!?
that would be way way overkill. 8/16/32G boxes works perfectly with 3:1
with the stock 2.4 VM (after you nuke rmap).
> vsyscall-sys_gettimeofday and vsyscall-sys_time could help quite some
> for mysql. Also, the highly threaded nature of mysql on the same MM
he said he doesn't use gettimeofday frequently, so most of the flushes
are from other syscalls.
> which is pretty much the worst-case for the 4/4 design. If it's an
definitely agreed.
> issue, there are multiple ways to mitigate this cost.
how? just curious.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-05 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-27 1:33 Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 4:38 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:49 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 21:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 21:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 3:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-01 11:10 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-02-27 21:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 22:03 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-28 2:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 4:57 ` Wim Coekaerts
2004-02-28 6:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 6:45 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 7:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 9:19 ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-18 2:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20040228061838.GO8834@dualathlon.random.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-28 12:46 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 1:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29 2:29 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 16:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 6:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 6:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 7:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 7:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 14:55 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-28 15:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-29 1:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` < 1078370073.3403.759.camel@abyss.local>
2004-03-04 3:14 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 3:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 3:44 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 4:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 4:44 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 4:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 5:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 5:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 20:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-05 20:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-04 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 16:21 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 17:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 18:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 19:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 20:21 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-05 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-03-05 14:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 15:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07 8:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 10:29 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08 5:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 18:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 19:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 19:55 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 20:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 14:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:02 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20040305150225.GA13237@elte.hu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-05 15:51 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-10 13:21 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 5:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 12:56 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-06 13:13 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-07 11:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 6:50 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-02 9:10 ` Kurt Garloff
2004-03-02 15:32 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 21:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-02-27 23:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-02-27 22:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29 6:34 ` Mike Fedyk
[not found] <20040304175821.GO4922@dualathlon.random>
2004-03-04 22:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 23:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 3:43 ` Rik van Riel
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2004-03-12 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-18 19:50 ` Peter Zaitsev
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2004-03-12 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
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