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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT PATCH COW] proof of concept impementation of cowlinks
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:56:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040513105613.GA31123@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040512002606.GB22081@mail.shareable.org>

On Wed, 12 May 2004 01:26:06 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Jörn Engel wrote:
> > What about ino?  I currently return 1, so diff remains fast without
> > any changes.  If someone really needs the difference between inode 2
> > and 3, I would introduce a cstat() system call similar to lstat(),
> > which would return ino=2.
> > 
> > Is this sane?  Should it be reversed and cstat() return ino=1, while
> > stat returns ino=2?  I can imagine that "tar -x" would create hard
> > links for every cowlink that "tar -c" saw, but I'm not sure yet.
> 
> I think it should be reversed.

Aye.

> One very useful application for cowlinks is for virtual machine (UML)
> and chroot jail setups, where an entire filesystem tree is copied
> perhaps hundreds of times on a single disk.  I'm surprised we didn't
> think of this earlier, as it's potentially one of the most useful
> applications for cowlinks.
> 
> In that scenario, cowlinks would save enormous amounts of storage and
> potentially save memory too.  However to be useful at all, they'd need
> to have accurate POSIX semantics: that is, cowlinks must behave very
> much as a storage optimisation only.
> 
> That means stat() should return ino==2.

Hmm, true.  Up 'till now, that was done with disk images and block
based diffs/snapshots.  Nice application.

Jörn

-- 
He who knows others is wise.
He who knows himself is enlightened.
-- Lao Tsu

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-13 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-06 13:17 Jörn Engel
2004-05-06 13:18 ` [PATCH COW] generic_sendpage Jörn Engel
2004-05-06 13:19 ` [PATCH COW] sendfile Jörn Engel
2004-05-06 13:19 ` [PATCH COW] copyfile Jörn Engel
2004-05-06 13:20 ` [PATCH COW] lock_flags Jörn Engel
2004-05-06 13:21 ` [PATCH COW] MAD COW Jörn Engel
2004-05-08 13:45 ` [ANNOUNCEMENT PATCH COW] proof of concept impementation of cowlinks Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-08 22:10   ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-09 14:09     ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-09 21:53       ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-10 15:44         ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-10 15:51           ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-10 15:56             ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-12  0:26           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-05-13 10:56             ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2004-05-12 20:29         ` Rob Landley
2004-05-08 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-10 15:53   ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-10 19:26     ` Jan Harkes
2004-05-11 10:02       ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-11 14:08         ` Jan Harkes
2004-05-11 14:18           ` Jan Harkes
2004-05-11 14:33           ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-21 23:23           ` Rob Landley
2004-05-25 22:46             ` Jan Harkes
2004-05-11 15:40         ` Steve French
2004-05-11 15:58           ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-10  5:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-05-10 15:59   ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-12 16:39 ` Rob Landley
2004-05-20 13:49   ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-25 21:55     ` Rob Landley
2004-05-25 22:08       ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-25 23:16         ` Rob Landley
2004-05-26  0:16           ` Ian Stirling
2004-05-26  9:52           ` Jörn Engel

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