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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Instrumenting high latency
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 01:02:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040712080259.GV21066@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040712003418.02997a12.akpm@osdl.org>

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:34:18AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> OK, small problem.  We have code which does, effectively,
> 	if (need_resched()) {
> 		drop_the_lock();
> 		schedule();
> 		grab_the_lock();
> 	}
> so if need_resched() stays false then this will hold the lock for a long
> time and bogus reports are generated:
> 46ms non-preemptible critical section violated 1 ms preempt threshold starting at exit_mmap+0x26/0x188 and ending at exit_mmap+0x154/0x188
> To fix that you need to generate high scheduling pressure so that
> need_resched() is frequently true.  On all CPUs.  Modify realfeel to pin
> itself to each CPU, or something like that.

I suspect it's better to drop in hooks to trap those e.g. in
cond_resched() and cond_resched_lock().


On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:34:18AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> This rather decreases the patch's usefulness.
> The way I normally do this stuff is with
> 	http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/rtc-debug.patch
> and `amlat', from http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/amlat.tar.gz
> It _might_ be sufficient to redefine need_resched() to just return 1 all
> the time.  If that causes the kernel to livelock then we need to fix that
> up anyway.

Less code... not sure how nasty performance the implications are.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-12  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-12  6:29 Con Kolivas
2004-07-12  6:37 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12  6:43   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12  6:58     ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12  7:00   ` [PATCH] " William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12  7:34 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12  8:02   ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-07-12  8:38     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 11:31       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 14:32         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 17:09         ` Martin Josefsson
2004-07-12  8:29   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12  8:42     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12  8:47       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 10:41 ` Rajput
2004-07-12 10:44   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-12 14:27   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 14:33     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-12 14:42       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 14:47         ` Martin J. Bligh

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