From: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@in.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:27:58 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040714085758.GA4165@obelix.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040714070700.GA12579@kroah.com>
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:07:00AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 10:23:50AM +0530, Ravikiran G Thirumalai wrote:
> >
> > The attatched patch provides infrastructure for refcounting of objects
> > in a rcu protected collection.
>
> This is really close to the kref implementation. Why not just use that
> instead?
Close, but not the same. I just had a quick look at krefs.
Actually, this refrerence count infrastructure I am proposing is not for
traditional refcounting. This is for refcounting of elemnts of a list
or array (collection) which can be 'read' in a lock free manner.
For ex. With traditional refcounting, you can have
1. 2.
add() search_and_reference()
{ {
alloc_object read_lock(&list_lock);
... search_for_element
refcount_init(&el->rc) refcount_get(&el->rc);
write_lock(&list_lock); ...
add_element read_unlock(&list_lock);
... ...
write_unlock(&list_lock); }
}
3. 4.
release_referenced() delete()
{ {
... write_lock(&list_lock);
if (refcount_put(&el->rc)) ...
start_cleanup_object ...
free_object delete_element
... write_unlock(&list_lock);
} ...
if (refcount_put(&el->rc))
start_cleanup_object
free_object
}
add() puts the refcounted element into the system with the list_lock
taken for write, search_and_reference() takes the list_lock for read
and gets the refcount. Now if the list was a read mostly kind, then
we could replace the list_lock rw lock with a spinlock,
serialise updates to the list with the spinlock taken (in the add())
and use rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock() on the reader side
(search_and_reference()) replacing the read_locks in 2. above.
But, with rcu, search and reference could see stale elements, that is
elements which have been taken off the list from delete(). Using call_rcu
to free the object from release_referenced() (free_object in 3.) will defer
freeing, so that &el memory location above is not freed 'til the reader
comes out of rcu_read_lock protected code, _but_ the
search_and_reference thread could potentially get a reference to a
deleted list element. Hence, under lockfree circumstances, just an
atomic_inc to the refcount is not sufficient.
We do:
...
c = atomic_read(&rc->count);
while ( c && (old = cmpxchg(&rc->count.counter, c, c+1)) != c)
c = old;
return c;
which is abstracted out as refcount_get_rcu()
Hence, in the example above, search_and_reference would look like
search_and_reference()
{
rcu_read_lock();
search_for_element
if (!refcount_get_rcu(&el->rc)) {
rcu_read_unlock();
return FAIL;
}
...
...
rcu_read_unlock();
}
Hope that clears things up.
>
> Oh, and I think you need to use atomic_set() instead of initializing the
> atomic_t by hand.
I have used atomic_set for the case where arch has cmpxchg. But for
arches lacking cmpxchg, I need to use hashed spinlocks to implement
the ref_count_get_rcu.
No point in having more atomic operations when I hold spinlocks. Admittedly,
might be a bit yucky to assume atomic_t internals, but it is just one header
file :) <ducks>
Thanks,
Kiran
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-14 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-14 4:53 Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 4:56 ` [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 15:17 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-15 14:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 16:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:34 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-16 5:38 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-16 6:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 0:55 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 1:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:12 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 2:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:28 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 3:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2004-07-14 7:07 ` [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Greg KH
2004-07-14 8:26 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 14:26 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 15:22 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 17:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 17:49 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 18:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-15 6:21 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 6:56 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 8:57 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai [this message]
2004-07-14 17:08 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 18:17 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 8:02 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 9:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-16 14:32 ` Greg KH
2004-07-16 15:50 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 10:24 Oleg Nesterov
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