From: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@in.ibm.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
Cc: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Lock free fd lookup
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:08:35 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040716053835.GA1257@obelix.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040715093408.A1924@build.pdx.osdl.net>
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:34:08AM -0700, Chris Wright wrote:
> * Dipankar Sarma (dipankar@in.ibm.com) wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:22:53AM -0400, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:17 am, Chris Wright wrote:
> > ...
> > Chris raises an interesting issue. There are two ways we can benefit from
> > lock-free lookup - avoidance of atomic ops in lock acquisition/release
> > and avoidance of contention. The latter can also be provided by
> > rwlocks in read-mostly situations like this, but rwlock still has
> > two atomic ops for acquisition/release. So, in another
> > thread, I have suggested looking into the contention angle. IIUC,
> > tiobench is threaded and shares fd table.
>
> Given the read heavy assumption that RCU makes (supported by your
> benchmarks), I believe that the comparison with RCU vs. current scheme
> is unfair. Better comparison is against rwlock_t, which may give a
> similar improvement w/out the added complexity. But, I haven't a patch
> nor a benchmark, so it's all handwavy at this point.
It would be a good datapoint to experiment with rwlock.
But note that on x86 (my testbed right now)
1. read_lock + read_unlock + atomic_inc will be 3 (bus locking) atomic ops
2. spin_lock + spin_unlock + atomic_inc will be 2 atomic ops
(x86 spin_unlock is just a move)
3. rcu_read_lock, rcu_read_unlock + cmpxchg is just one atomic op,
added to it the cs is small in fget, fget_light....
IIRC, the files_struct.file_lock was a rwlock sometime back.
(it still is in 2.4 i think) I am not sure why it was changed to spinlocks.
I will try to dig through the archives, but if someone can quickly
fill in that would be nice.
Thanks,
Kiran
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-16 5:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-14 4:53 [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 4:56 ` [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 15:17 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-15 14:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 16:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:34 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-16 5:38 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai [this message]
2004-07-16 6:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 0:55 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 1:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:12 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 2:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:28 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 3:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2004-07-14 7:07 ` [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Greg KH
2004-07-14 8:26 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 14:26 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 15:22 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 17:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 17:49 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 18:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-15 6:21 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 6:56 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 8:57 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 17:08 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 18:17 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 8:02 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 9:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-16 14:32 ` Greg KH
2004-07-16 15:50 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-17 8:50 [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Manfred Spraul
2004-07-17 9:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 19:17 Albert Cahalan
2004-07-29 0:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
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