From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] I/O space write barrier
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:09:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410051609.23479.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097016099.27222.14.camel@gaston>
On Tuesday, October 5, 2004 3:41 pm, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 01:33, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > This macro is only supposed to deal with writes from different CPUs that
> > may arrive out of order, nothing else. It sounds like PPC won't allow
> > that normally, so I can be an empty definition.
>
> I don't understand that neither. You can never guarantee any ordering
> between writes from different CPUs unless you have a sinlock. If you
> have an ordering problem with spinlocks, then it's a totally different
> issue, a bit more like MMIO vs. cacheable mem that we have on PPC.
Right.
> If
> this is the problem you are trying to chase, then we could use such a
> barrier on ppc too and make it a hard sync, but it has nothing to do
> with the write barrier we already have in our IO accessors...
Ok.
>
> > > That doesn't solve my need of MMIO vs. memory unless you are trying to
> > > cover that as well, in which case it should be a sync.
> >
> > No, I think that has to be covered separately.
>
> How so ? Again, this whole "ordering of writes between different CPU" makes
> absolutely no sense to me.
It's like you said above. I meant that ordering of writes to I/O space and
memory space should be dealt with differently on PPC, as you've said before.
I guess you need new barrier types for that?
Jesse
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-05 23:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-04 20:39 Albert Cahalan
2004-10-04 21:20 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05 0:32 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-05 1:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05 2:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05 3:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05 15:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-05 22:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05 23:09 ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2004-10-05 23:57 ` Roland Dreier
2004-10-06 1:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-05 2:33 ` Jesse Barnes
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-21 23:13 Jesse Barnes
2004-10-22 1:01 ` Grant Grundler
2004-10-22 3:05 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-22 4:26 ` Greg Banks
2004-10-22 15:26 ` Grant Grundler
2004-10-05 22:38 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-27 18:03 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-29 10:36 ` Greg Banks
2004-09-29 20:35 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-29 20:43 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-29 20:50 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-30 2:23 ` Greg Banks
2004-09-29 22:55 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-30 7:15 ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-30 21:21 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-10-16 0:38 ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-10-16 3:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-10-16 3:31 ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-22 15:45 Jesse Barnes
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