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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/3] lsm: add bsdjail module
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:11:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041012181146.H2441@build.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <416C5C26.9020403@redhat.com>; from drepper@redhat.com on Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 03:35:18PM -0700

* Ulrich Drepper (drepper@redhat.com) wrote:
> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > +If a private IP was specified for the jail, then
> > +		cat /proc/$$/attr/current
> 
> How is this going to interact with SELinux?

Poorly.  It's not expected to work with SELinux.  There's no good
stacking yet.

> Currently SELinux uses
> /proc/*/attr/current to report the current security context of the
> process.  libselinux expects the file to contain one string (not even a
> newline) which is the textual representation of the context.  Now with
> your changes you want to change this.  libselinux as-is would break
> miserably.

Maybe libselinux should not look around in there unless SELinux is
enabled in kernel.

> I don't know the history of the file and who is hijacking the file.
> Fact is that the file content is currently unstructured and libselinux
> couldn't possibly determine what part is of interest to itself.
> 
> So, either you use another file, SELinux uses another file, or the file
> gets tagged lines like
> 
>   selinux: user_u:user_r:user_t

Yeah, that's workable.  Other options would probably look like putting
stuff in module specific locations, which is more painful.

> I guess you couldn't even start the userlevel code in FC3 in such a jail
> in the moment since the libselinux startup tests would fail.

Userspace won't start in a jail, and once it's up, jailing works (on
rawhide for example).  Admittedly, the label looks a bit funny.

# in jail
$ ps -eM
LABEL                             PID TTY          TIME CMD
No                              16933 ?        00:00:00 bash
No                              17010 ?        00:00:00 ps

# unconfined
$ ps -eM
<snip>
Not                              5714 pts/5    00:00:00 ssh
Not                             12027 pts/6    00:00:00 bash
Not                             12046 pts/6    00:00:00 vim
Not                             16823 pts/4    00:00:00 vim
Not                             16911 pts/8    00:00:00 bash
Root:                           16933 pts/7    00:00:00 bash
Not                             17016 pts/8    00:00:00 ps

thanks,
-chris
-- 
Linux Security Modules     http://lsm.immunix.org     http://lsm.bkbits.net

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-13  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-06 20:21 (patch 1/3) lsm: add control over /proc/<pid> visibility Serge Hallyn
2004-10-06 20:24 ` [patch 1/3] lsm: add bsdjail module Serge Hallyn
2004-10-06 23:26   ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-07  4:08     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-07  6:18       ` James Morris
2004-10-07  6:22         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-07 16:06           ` Chris Wright
2004-10-07 18:40             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-07 18:52               ` Chris Wright
2004-10-07 20:56                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-10  6:24                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-10-07 12:06     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 19:01     ` [patch 2/3] " Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-07 19:42       ` Chris Wright
2004-10-07 20:05         ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-08 18:05         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-10 10:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-10 11:31         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-10 11:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-11 13:47         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-12  7:00           ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-10-12  9:00             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-12 12:27               ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-10-20 15:36                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-20 19:18                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-10-12 13:11           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-12 14:15             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-12 22:35             ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-10-13  0:58               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-13  1:09                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-10-13  1:22                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2004-10-13 15:26                     ` Stephen Smalley
2004-10-13  1:11               ` Chris Wright [this message]
2004-10-13 14:25               ` Stephen Smalley
2004-10-06 20:25 ` [patch 3/3] lsm: add bsdjail documentation Serge Hallyn
2004-10-07 22:17   ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-08 20:02     ` Serge E. Hallyn

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