From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com,
andrea@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:36:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050105173624.5c3189b9.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501052025450.11550@chimarrao.boston.redhat.com>
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> > I think what Andrea is worried about is that blk_congestion_wait is
> > fairly vague, and can be a source of instability in the scanning
> > implementation.
>
> The recent OOM kill problem has been happening:
> 1) with cache pressure on lowmem only, due to a block device write
> 2) with no block congestion at all
> 3) with pretty much all pageable lowmme pages in writeback state
You must have a wild number of requests configured in the queue. Is this
CFQ?
I've done testing with "all of memory under writeback" before and it went
OK. It's certainly a design objective to handle this well. But that
testing was before we broke it.
> It appears the VM has trouble dealing with the situation where
> there is no block congestion to wait on...
It's misnamed. We don't "wait for the queue to come out of congestion".
We simply throttle until a write completes, or, rarely, timeout.
The bug which you fixed would cause the VM to scan itself to death without
throttling. Did the fix fix things?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-06 1:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-03 17:25 Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 10:08 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 18:50 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 20:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 23:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:27 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 1:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 1:36 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-01-06 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:26 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:55 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:16 ` memory barrier in ll_rw_blk.c (was Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned) Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 8:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 12:00 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 4:59 ` [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 13:28 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 6:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
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