Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

[Asfand Yar Qazi]

Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
>>> * "hardware firewall" -- sounds silly.  Pretty sure Linux doesn't 
>>> support
>>> it in any case.
>>>
>>
>>
>> probably just one of those things implemented in the binary drivers in
>> software, just like the "hardware" IDE raid is most of the time (3ware
>> being the positive exception there)
>>
> 
> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Previews/nvnforce4/3.html
> 
> You're right there - some semi-hardware support combined with drivers 
> apparently result in lower CPU usage that software firewalls.  Apparently.
> 
> Actually, these people like it:
> http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=712&pageID=1096
> 
> However one feature that you can't laugh at is the fact that it can be 
> made to block packets in the span of time between the OS being loaded 
> up, and the "real" firewall coming up.  This small time span 
> theoretically leaves the PC vulnerable, so I think this is the only use 
> for "ActiveAmor Firewall".
> 
> However, this doesn't answer my original question (which I suppose I 
> should have made clearer): can I get SATA II NCQ support in Linux with 
> an nForce 4 chipset?
> 
> 

Argh already been answered.  Another question: which add-in SATA RAID 
boards (preferably in PCI Express flavour) support NCQ fully and will 
be fully supported in Linux?

Re: [OT] Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

[Asfand Yar Qazi]

Pawel Sikora wrote:
> <OT>
> 
> Do You really need nforce4?
> Maybe sis76[01]GX will be enough? :-)
> 
> http://www.sis.com/products/sis760gx.htm
> http://www.sis.com/pressroom/pressrelease_000184.htm
> 
> </OT>

No, but I do need NCQ

Re: [OT] Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:33:03AM +0000, Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
> No, but I do need NCQ

Perhaps a stupid question... but: Why do you _need_ NCQ?  If you need it
that badly (not sure why anyone would), you could always get SCSI or a
3ware controller.

NCQ is a nice feature, but hardly essential.

Len Sorensen

Re: [OT] Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

[Asfand Yar Qazi]

Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:33:03AM +0000, Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
> 
>>No, but I do need NCQ
> 
> 
> Perhaps a stupid question... but: Why do you _need_ NCQ?  If you need it
> that badly (not sure why anyone would), you could always get SCSI or a
> 3ware controller.
> 

For the novelty value.

> NCQ is a nice feature, but hardly essential.

So is baking soda flavoured toothpaste - whats yer point? :-)

> 
> Len Sorensen
> 


Anyway, the 3ware controller (if it is avaliable for PCI express) 
sounds good.  Off-mainboard solutions tend to be quicker anyway.

Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

[Asfand Yar Qazi]

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>* "hardware firewall" -- sounds silly.  Pretty sure Linux doesn't support
>>it in any case.
>>
> 
> 
> probably just one of those things implemented in the binary drivers in
> software, just like the "hardware" IDE raid is most of the time (3ware
> being the positive exception there)
> 

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Previews/nvnforce4/3.html

You're right there - some semi-hardware support combined with drivers 
apparently result in lower CPU usage that software firewalls.  Apparently.

Actually, these people like it:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=712&pageID=1096

However one feature that you can't laugh at is the fact that it can be 
made to block packets in the span of time between the OS being loaded 
up, and the "real" firewall coming up.  This small time span 
theoretically leaves the PC vulnerable, so I think this is the only 
use for "ActiveAmor Firewall".

However, this doesn't answer my original question (which I suppose I 
should have made clearer): can I get SATA II NCQ support in Linux with 
an nForce 4 chipset?

[OT] Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

[Pawel Sikora]

<OT>

Do You really need nforce4?
Maybe sis76[01]GX will be enough? :-)

http://www.sis.com/products/sis760gx.htm
http://www.sis.com/pressroom/pressrelease_000184.htm

</OT>