From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Ricky Beam <jfbeam@bluetronic.net>,
nico-kernel@schottelius.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /proc/cpuinfo format - arch dependent!
Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:18:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050507171850.GA19380@alpha.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050507172005.GB26088@redhat.com>
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:20:05PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:05:56PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
>
> > Well, that's exactly for this that I formulated the proposal. A
> > CPU-intensive application which benefits from the cache would better
> > choose to run on HT pairs. A network-hungry application will prefer
> > running on only one sibling of each HT pair, and probably one process
> > per core, particularly when each core receives one NIC's interrupt.
> > A memory bandwidth intensive application will choose to run on a
> > single NUMA node, etc... So either the application can choose this
> > itself from its understanding of the CPU layout, or it can ask the
> > system "hey, I'd like this type of workload, how many process should
> > I start, and where should I bind them ?".
>
> I think generalising this and having a method to do this in the kernel
> is a much better idea than each application parsing this themselves.
> Things are only getting more and more complex as time goes on,
> and I don't trust application developers to get it right.
>
> Centralising this in the kernel (or maybe even glibc) means we can get
> it right, and have every application benefit. If we get it wrong, we
> fix it, and all the applications are fixed without needing fixing/recompiling.
Agreed.
Even more, support for newer layouts would only require a kernel upgrade
and not an application update. And porting applications to other
architectures would be more transparent.
Regards,
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-07 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-19 12:15 Nico Schottelius
2005-04-19 13:24 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-04-19 19:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-04-19 20:00 ` Nico Schottelius
2005-04-19 20:02 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-19 20:12 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-04-19 20:42 ` Lee Revell
2005-04-19 20:54 ` Nico Schottelius
2005-04-19 21:12 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-04-20 20:31 ` Ralf Baechle
2005-05-07 3:37 ` Ricky Beam
2005-05-07 4:01 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-05-07 7:55 ` Ricky Beam
2005-05-07 17:51 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-05-07 18:05 ` Ricky Beam
2005-05-07 18:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-05-07 4:14 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-07 7:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-07 16:53 ` Dave Jones
2005-05-07 17:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-07 17:20 ` Dave Jones
2005-05-07 17:18 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2005-05-08 1:25 ` Jim Nance
2005-05-08 16:11 ` John Kacur
2005-05-09 18:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-09 20:09 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-09 20:26 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-09 21:25 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-10 16:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-10 16:34 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-10 2:23 ` Jim Nance
2005-05-10 4:12 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-10 7:13 ` Paul Jackson
2005-05-10 16:34 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-07 17:54 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-05-07 18:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-09 18:03 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-10 7:21 ` Paul Jackson
2005-05-10 14:38 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-10 16:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-09 18:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-09 19:58 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-10 16:49 ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-05-07 23:33 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-08 13:24 ` Andi Kleen
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