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From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Ricky Beam <jfbeam@bluetronic.net>,
	nico-kernel@schottelius.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /proc/cpuinfo format - arch dependent!
Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:18:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050507171850.GA19380@alpha.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050507172005.GB26088@redhat.com>

On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 01:20:05PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:05:56PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> 
>  > Well, that's exactly for this that I formulated the proposal. A
>  > CPU-intensive application which benefits from the cache would better
>  > choose to run on HT pairs. A network-hungry application will prefer
>  > running on only one sibling of each HT pair, and probably one process
>  > per core, particularly when each core receives one NIC's interrupt.
>  > A memory bandwidth intensive application will choose to run on a
>  > single NUMA node, etc... So either the application can choose this
>  > itself from its understanding of the CPU layout, or it can ask the
>  > system "hey, I'd like this type of workload, how many process should
>  > I start, and where should I bind them ?".
> 
> I think generalising this and having a method to do this in the kernel
> is a much better idea than each application parsing this themselves.
> Things are only getting more and more complex as time goes on,
> and I don't trust application developers to get it right.
> 
> Centralising this in the kernel (or maybe even glibc) means we can get
> it right, and have every application benefit. If we get it wrong, we
> fix it, and all the applications are fixed without needing fixing/recompiling.

Agreed.

Even more, support for newer layouts would only require a kernel upgrade
and not an application update. And porting applications to other
architectures would be more transparent.

Regards,
Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-07 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-19 12:15 Nico Schottelius
2005-04-19 13:24 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-04-19 19:17   ` Lee Revell
2005-04-19 20:00     ` Nico Schottelius
2005-04-19 20:02       ` David S. Miller
2005-04-19 20:12       ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-04-19 20:42       ` Lee Revell
2005-04-19 20:54         ` Nico Schottelius
2005-04-19 21:12           ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-04-20 20:31   ` Ralf Baechle
2005-05-07  3:37 ` Ricky Beam
2005-05-07  4:01   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-05-07  7:55     ` Ricky Beam
2005-05-07 17:51       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-05-07 18:05         ` Ricky Beam
2005-05-07 18:46           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-05-07  4:14   ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-07  7:58     ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-07 16:53       ` Dave Jones
2005-05-07 17:05         ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-07 17:20           ` Dave Jones
2005-05-07 17:18             ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2005-05-08  1:25             ` Jim Nance
2005-05-08 16:11               ` John Kacur
2005-05-09 18:14               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-09 20:09                 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-09 20:26                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-09 21:25                     ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-10 16:21                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-10 16:34                     ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-10  2:23                 ` Jim Nance
2005-05-10  4:12                   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-10  7:13                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-05-10 16:34                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-07 17:54       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-05-07 18:05         ` Willy Tarreau
2005-05-09 18:03     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-10  7:21     ` Paul Jackson
2005-05-10 14:38       ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-10 16:37         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-09 18:00   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-09 19:58     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-10 16:49       ` Bill Davidsen
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2005-05-07 23:33         ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-08 13:24           ` Andi Kleen

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