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From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
To: rostedt@goodmis.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kmalloc without GFP_xxx?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:14:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506291714.32990.vda@ilport.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0506290927370.22775@localhost.localdomain>

On Wednesday 29 June 2005 16:44, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > >
> > > but it sets irqs_disabled() IIRC.
> >
> > only spin_lock_irq() and co do.
> > not the simple spin_lock()
> >
> 
> It may be dangerous to use spin_lock with interrupts enabled, since you
> have to make sure that no interrupt ever grabs that lock.  Although I do
> recall seeing a few locks like this.  But even so, you can transfer the
> latency of the interrupts going off while holding that lock to another CPU
> which IMHO is a bad thing.  Also a simple spin_lock would disable

This is why I always use _irqsave. Less error prone.
And locking is a very easy to get 'slightly' wrong, thus
I trade 0.1% of performance for code simplicity.

> preemption with CONFIG_PREEMPT set and that would make in_atomic fail.
> But to implement a kmalloc_auto you would always need to have a preempt
> count.
> 
> I'm not for a kmalloc_auto, but something like it would be useful for a
> function that can work for either context, and just fail nicely if the
> ATOMIC is set and the malloc can't get memory.  A function like this would
> currently have to always use ATOMIC even if it could have used KERNEL for
> some scenarios, since it would suffer the same pitfalls as a kmalloc_auto
> in determining its context.

This is more or less what I meant. Why think about each kmalloc and when you
eventually did get it right: "Aha, we _sometimes_ get called from spinlocked code,
GFP_ATOMIC then" - you still do atomic alloc even if cases when you
were _not_ called from locked code! Thus you needed to think longer and got
code which is worse.
--
vda



  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-29 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-29 11:02 Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 11:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-29 11:20   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 11:37     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-29 13:44       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 14:14         ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
2005-06-29 14:23           ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-29 14:53             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 15:10               ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-29 15:48                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 15:54                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-29 16:04                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 15:12           ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-29 16:48           ` Timur Tabi
2005-06-29 17:22             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 17:43               ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-06-29 18:07                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-30  7:52             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-30  8:05               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-30  1:02         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-30  6:02           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-29 11:18   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 11:25     ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-29 20:28 Manfred Spraul
2005-06-29 20:44 Manfred Spraul
2005-06-30  5:57 ` Steven Rostedt

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