From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: "Richard B. Johnson" <linux-os@analogic.com>
Cc: Timur Tabi <timur.tabi@ammasso.com>,
Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kmalloc without GFP_xxx?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:07:56 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0506291349510.22775@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0506291337230.5067@chaos.analogic.com>
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> >
> > task 1:
> > spin_lock(&non_irq_lock);
> >
> > task 2:
> >
> > spin_lock_irqsave(&some_irq_used_lock);
> > spin_lock(&non_irq_lock);
> >
> > Here we see that task 2 can spin with interrupts off, while the first task
> > is servicing an interrupt, and God forbid if the IRQ handler sends some
> > kind of SMP signal to the CPU running task 2 since that would be a
> > deadlock. Granted, this is a hypothetical situation, but makes using
> > spin_lock with interrupts enabled a little scary.
> >
>
> But it wouldn't deadlock! It would just spin until the guy on
> another CPU that had the lock unlocked.
>
Since Timur specified that spin_lock is used when you know that the lock
is not used in an interrupt, I'll continue as if that was the case.
This is a deadlock, because sending most SMP signals expect a reply when
it is received, and will wait until it gets it. Here's a more detailed
version.
CPU 1: running task 1
spin_lock(&non_irq_lock);
on CPU 2: running task 2
spin_lock_irqsave(&some_irq_used_lock); /* interrupts now off */
spin_lock(&non_irq_lock); /* blocked and spinning waiting for task 1*/
back on CPU 1:
interrupt goes off a preempts task 1 before it releases the
non_irq_lock.
Calls some stupid ISR that needs to send a signal to the other CPU.
Sends signal and waits for a reply. (for example the flush_tlb_others)
Now we have a deadlock. The interrupt on CPU 1 is waiting for a response
after sending an IPI to CPU 2, but CPU 2 is stuck spinning with interrupts
disabled and wont ever respond because the lock it is waiting for is held
by task 1 on CPU 1 that was preempted by the interrupt that will never
return.
This is probably the reason it is not allowed to call most IPIs from
interrupt or bottom half context.
> FYI, spin_lock() is supposed to be used in an interrupt where it
> is already known that the interrupts are OFF so you don't need
> to save/restore flags because you know the condition. IFF the
> ISR were to enable interrupts, with a spin-lock held (bad practice),
> it still wouldn't deadlock, it's just that the entire system could
> potentially degenerate into a poll-mode, spin in the ISR, mode
> with awful performance.
I stated earlier that the only times I use spin_lock is when I already
know that interrupts are off, and that includes ISRs.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-29 18:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-29 11:02 Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 11:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-29 11:20 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 11:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-29 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 14:14 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 14:23 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-29 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 15:10 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-29 15:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 15:54 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-29 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 15:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-29 16:48 ` Timur Tabi
2005-06-29 17:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 17:43 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-06-29 18:07 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-06-30 7:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-30 8:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-30 1:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-06-30 6:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-29 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-29 11:18 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-29 11:25 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-29 20:28 Manfred Spraul
2005-06-29 20:44 Manfred Spraul
2005-06-30 5:57 ` Steven Rostedt
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