udev-067 and 2.6.12?

udev-067 and 2.6.12?

[Alistair John Strachan]

Hi,

I just tried upgrading udev 053 to 067 on a 2.6.12 system and although the 
system booted, firmware_class failed to upload the firmware for my wireless 
card, prism54 was no longer auto loaded, etc. Even manually loading the 
driver didn't help.

Any reason why 067 wouldn't work with 2.6.12? Do you have to do something 
special with hotplug prior to upgrading?

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.'
Third year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.

Re: udev-067 and 2.6.12?

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:02:00PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just tried upgrading udev 053 to 067 on a 2.6.12 system and although the 
> system booted, firmware_class failed to upload the firmware for my wireless 
> card, prism54 was no longer auto loaded, etc. Even manually loading the 
> driver didn't help.
> 
> Any reason why 067 wouldn't work with 2.6.12? Do you have to do something 
> special with hotplug prior to upgrading?

What distro are you using?  What rules file are you using?

067 should work just fine for you, it is for a lot of Gentoo and SuSE
users right now, on 2.6.12.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: udev-067 and 2.6.12?

[Alistair John Strachan]

On Tuesday 16 August 2005 23:05, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:02:00PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just tried upgrading udev 053 to 067 on a 2.6.12 system and although
> > the system booted, firmware_class failed to upload the firmware for my
> > wireless card, prism54 was no longer auto loaded, etc. Even manually
> > loading the driver didn't help.
> >
> > Any reason why 067 wouldn't work with 2.6.12? Do you have to do something
> > special with hotplug prior to upgrading?
>
> What distro are you using?  What rules file are you using?
>
> 067 should work just fine for you, it is for a lot of Gentoo and SuSE
> users right now, on 2.6.12.
>

An LFS from April 05, with the stock 50-udev.rules, 25-lfs.rules (which 
doesn't do anything suspicious, I think; certainly nothing related to my 
problem).

25-lfs.rules does duplicate some of the things in 50-udev.rules, but I think 
that's deliberate (they want to interfere with the stock install as little as 
possible, and the overrides take precedence). I've put my /etc/udev directory 
unmodified up here:

http://devzero.co.uk/~alistair/udev/

If I reinstall 053 and reboot, everything that's broken on 067 works again. Do 
you need a specific hotplug installed?

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.'
Third year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.

Re: udev-067 and 2.6.12?

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:12:26PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 August 2005 23:05, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:02:00PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just tried upgrading udev 053 to 067 on a 2.6.12 system and although
> > > the system booted, firmware_class failed to upload the firmware for my
> > > wireless card, prism54 was no longer auto loaded, etc. Even manually
> > > loading the driver didn't help.
> > >
> > > Any reason why 067 wouldn't work with 2.6.12? Do you have to do something
> > > special with hotplug prior to upgrading?
> >
> > What distro are you using?  What rules file are you using?
> >
> > 067 should work just fine for you, it is for a lot of Gentoo and SuSE
> > users right now, on 2.6.12.
> >
> 
> An LFS from April 05, with the stock 50-udev.rules, 25-lfs.rules (which 
> doesn't do anything suspicious, I think; certainly nothing related to my 
> problem).

There are no "stock" udev rules anymore.  That's probably the issue, all
of the distros made their own, so we provide them in the tarball.  I
suggest you talk to the LFS people about this.

> 25-lfs.rules does duplicate some of the things in 50-udev.rules, but I think 
> that's deliberate (they want to interfere with the stock install as little as 
> possible, and the overrides take precedence). I've put my /etc/udev directory 
> unmodified up here:
> 
> http://devzero.co.uk/~alistair/udev/

s/=/==/ for most of your rules and see if that works.

> If I reinstall 053 and reboot, everything that's broken on 067 works again. Do 
> you need a specific hotplug installed?

You shouldn't.

You also might want to take this to the linux-hotplug-devel mailing
list, as that's the proper place for udev issues.

good luck,

greg k-h

Re: udev-067 and 2.6.12?

[Kay Sievers]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 03:14:50PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:12:26PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 August 2005 23:05, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:02:00PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just tried upgrading udev 053 to 067 on a 2.6.12 system and although
> > > > the system booted, firmware_class failed to upload the firmware for my
> > > > wireless card, prism54 was no longer auto loaded, etc. Even manually
> > > > loading the driver didn't help.
> > > >
> > > > Any reason why 067 wouldn't work with 2.6.12? Do you have to do something
> > > > special with hotplug prior to upgrading?
> > >
> > > What distro are you using?  What rules file are you using?
> > >
> > > 067 should work just fine for you, it is for a lot of Gentoo and SuSE
> > > users right now, on 2.6.12.
> > >
> > 
> > An LFS from April 05, with the stock 50-udev.rules, 25-lfs.rules (which 
> > doesn't do anything suspicious, I think; certainly nothing related to my 
> > problem).
> 
> There are no "stock" udev rules anymore.  That's probably the issue, all
> of the distros made their own, so we provide them in the tarball.  I
> suggest you talk to the LFS people about this.
> 
> > 25-lfs.rules does duplicate some of the things in 50-udev.rules, but I think 
> > that's deliberate (they want to interfere with the stock install as little as 
> > possible, and the overrides take precedence). I've put my /etc/udev directory 
> > unmodified up here:
> > 
> > http://devzero.co.uk/~alistair/udev/
> 
> s/=/==/ for most of your rules and see if that works.
> 
> > If I reinstall 053 and reboot, everything that's broken on 067 works again. Do 
> > you need a specific hotplug installed?

Do you provide hooks for handling /etc/hotplug.d/? We are on the way of
getting rid of that directory and recent udev versions don't handle
that by default anymore. If you don't know, read the udev RELEASE-NOTES.

Kay

Re: udev-067 and 2.6.12?

[Alistair John Strachan]

On Wednesday 17 August 2005 00:09, Kay Sievers wrote:
[snip]
>
> Do you provide hooks for handling /etc/hotplug.d/? We are on the way of
> getting rid of that directory and recent udev versions don't handle
> that by default anymore. If you don't know, read the udev RELEASE-NOTES.
>
> Kay

I read the document, fixed the rules, and it works again. I've sent additional 
emails to the correct list this time outlining some other problems. I suspect 
they, too, are hotplug related.

(In future I'll read the documentation available in its entirety before 
pestering people. However, the way udev works is constantly changing and the 
problem I was seeing was seemingly inconsistent with an otherwise working 
udev, which made me think the problem was more deep seated..)

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

'No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.'
Third year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.