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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk,
	Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:36:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050916233628.0fd948f0.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0509170300030.3743@scrub.home>

Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
> > Roman: any ideas about what you would prefer? You'll notice
> > atomic_inc_not_zero replaces rcuref_inc_lf, which is used several times
> > in the VFS.
> 
> In the larger picture I'm not completely happy with these scalibilty 
> patches, as they add extra overhead at the lower end. On a UP system in 
> general nothing beats:
> 
> 	spin_lock();
> 	if (*ptr)
> 		ptr += 1;
> 	spin_unlock();
> 
> The main problem is here that the atomic functions are used in two basic 
> situation:
> 
> 1) interrupt synchronization
> 2) multiprocessor synchronization
> 
> The atomic functions have to assume both, but on UP systems it often is 
> a lot cheaper if they don't have to synchronize with interrupts. So 
> replacing a spinlock with a few atomic operations can hurt UP performance.
> 

Nope.  On uniprocessor systems, atomic_foo() doesn't actually do the
buslocked atomic thing.

#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
#define LOCK "lock ; "
#else
#define LOCK ""
#endif

On x86, at least.  Other architectures can do the same thing if they have
an atomic-wrt-IRQs add and sub.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-17  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-14 14:48 [PATCH 1/5] atomic: introduce atomic_cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:51   ` [PATCH 3/5] rcu file: use atomic primitives Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:55     ` [PATCH 4/5] atomic: dec_and_lock use cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 15:01       ` [PATCH 5/5] remove HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 16:31         ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 16:49           ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:59             ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 22:03             ` Russell King
2005-09-14 22:26               ` David S. Miller
2005-09-15  7:10                 ` Russell King
2005-09-15 13:08         ` Alan Cox
2005-09-14 15:20       ` [PATCH 4/5] atomic: dec_and_lock use cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 16:24       ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 16:52         ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17  0:05           ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 16:16   ` [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 16:44     ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:04       ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:18       ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 22:00         ` Russell King
2005-09-14 22:10           ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 22:21             ` Russell King
2005-09-15  1:51               ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17  1:15                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17  6:36                   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-09-17 10:01                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17  7:19                   ` David S. Miller
2005-09-17  7:34                   ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-18  8:08                   ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17  0:59               ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17  7:18                 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-17  7:27                   ` Russell King
2005-09-18  6:03                     ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 15:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] atomic: introduce atomic_cmpxchg Russell King
2005-09-14 15:22   ` Nick Piggin

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