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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	johnstul@us.ibm.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	oleg@tv-sign.ru, tim.bird@am.sony.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH]  ktimers subsystem 2.6.14-rc2-kt5
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:51:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051004055111.GA20208@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4341E206.3090204@mvista.com>


* George Anzinger <george@mvista.com> wrote:

> > yeah, and that's an assumption that simplifies things on SMP 
> > significantly. PIT on SMP systems for HRT is so gross that it's not 
> > funny. If anyone wants to revive that notion, please do a separate 
> > patch and make the case convincing enough ...
>
> Lets not talk about PIT, but, a lot of SMP platforms do NOT have per 
> cpu timers.  For those, it would seem having per cpu lists to handle 
> the timer is not really reasonable.

frankly, such systems are rare, and are an afterthought at most. Think 
about it: 8 CPUs and only one hres timer source? It cannot work nor 
scale well.

i agree that they might eventually be handled (although i think we 
shouldnt bother, all sane SMP designs have per-CPU timers), but we 
definite wont design for them. What such an architecture has to do is to 
provide the proper do_hr_timer_int() and arch_hrtimer_reprogram() 
semantics, via locking around that timer source (naturally), and via 
cross-CPU calls - as if they were per-CPU timers.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-04  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-28 20:43 tglx
2005-09-28 23:59 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-09-29  0:50   ` Frank Sorenson
2005-09-29  0:56     ` john stultz
2005-09-29  1:05       ` Frank Sorenson
2005-09-29  1:10 ` john stultz
2005-09-29  6:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-30 15:58     ` Frank Sorenson
2005-09-29 19:57 ` George Anzinger
2005-10-01  1:03 ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-01 11:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-04  1:59     ` George Anzinger
2005-10-04  5:51       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-10-10 12:42     ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-10 14:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-01 12:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-10 17:22     ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-11  7:42       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-12 22:36         ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-12 23:46           ` George Anzinger
2005-10-16 16:34             ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-16 19:26               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-16 23:03                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17  7:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17  8:26                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-17  9:29                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17  9:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17  9:56                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-17 11:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17 16:25                           ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 16:49                             ` Tim Bird
2005-10-17 17:26                               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-17 18:49                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 19:19                                 ` Tim Bird
2005-10-17 19:48                                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 20:13                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17 20:31                                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-18  8:46                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 23:52                                           ` Tim Bird
2005-10-19  0:03                                             ` George Anzinger
2005-10-19  1:58                                           ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-19  6:46                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-19 10:49                                             ` kernel/timer.c design (was: Re: ktimers subsystem) Ingo Molnar
2005-10-19 17:48                                               ` kernel/timer.c design Tim Bird
2005-10-19 18:00                                               ` Tim Bird
2005-10-19 19:04                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-19 22:12                                               ` kernel/timer.c design (was: Re: ktimers subsystem) Roman Zippel
2005-10-19 11:40                                             ` [PATCH] ktimers subsystem 2.6.14-rc2-kt5 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-19 11:58                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-19 22:24                                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 20:09                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17 20:55                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-18  0:07                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-18  1:03                                 ` George Anzinger
2005-10-19  1:26                                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-19  2:52                                     ` George Anzinger
2005-10-21 16:22                                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-23 18:17                                         ` George Anzinger
2005-10-27 20:23                                           ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-28  4:52                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-28 16:06                                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 16:33                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 16:39                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17 16:54                             ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 17:35                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17  9:54                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-04  1:55   ` George Anzinger
2005-10-17 18:38 linux
2005-10-17 19:04 ` Roman Zippel
2005-10-17 22:41   ` linux

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