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* robust futex heap support patch
@ 2005-11-26  7:42 david singleton
  2005-11-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
  2005-12-05 22:30 ` Esben Nielsen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: david singleton @ 2005-11-26  7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: robustmutexes, Ingo Molnar; +Cc: linux-kernel

There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1,  that adds support for 
robust and priority inheriting
pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.

The previous patches only supported either file based pthread_mutexes 
or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch allows 
pthread_mutexes
to be 'malloc'ed while using the PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute
or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.

The patch can be found at:

http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton

David


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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-11-26  7:42 robust futex heap support patch david singleton
@ 2005-11-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
  2005-11-26 20:51   ` david singleton
  2005-12-05 22:30 ` Esben Nielsen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ingo Molnar @ 2005-11-26 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: david singleton; +Cc: robustmutexes, linux-kernel


* david singleton <dsingleton@mvista.com> wrote:

> There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1, that adds support for 
> robust and priority inheriting pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.

we need to go a bit slower. For now i had to remove robust-futexes from 
the -rt17 release because they broke normal (non-robust) futex support 
in -rt15. A simple mozilla startup would hang... Please send fixes 
against -rt16 and i'll try to re-add the robust futexes patch later on.  
You can find -rt16 at:

 http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/older/patch-2.6.14-rt16

> The previous patches only supported either file based pthread_mutexes 
> or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch allows 
> pthread_mutexes to be 'malloc'ed while using the 
> PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.
> 
> The patch can be found at:
> 
> http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton

this patch looks much cleaner than the earlier one, but there's one more 
step to go: now that we've got the futex_head in every vma, why not hang 
all robust futexes to the vma, and thus get rid of ->robust_list and 
->robust_sem from struct address_space?

	Ingo

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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-11-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
@ 2005-11-26 20:51   ` david singleton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: david singleton @ 2005-11-26 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ingo Molnar; +Cc: linux-kernel, robustmutexes


On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:31 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:

>
> * david singleton <dsingleton@mvista.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1, that adds support for
>> robust and priority inheriting pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.
>
> we need to go a bit slower. For now i had to remove robust-futexes from
> the -rt17 release because they broke normal (non-robust) futex support
> in -rt15. A simple mozilla startup would hang... Please send fixes
> against -rt16 and i'll try to re-add the robust futexes patch later on.
> You can find -rt16 at:

whoops, sorry.

Here's he piece that broke regular futexes.  Futex wake doesn't
need to check to see if the robust list is null or not.

Index: linux-2.6.14/kernel/futex.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6.14.orig/kernel/futex.c
+++ linux-2.6.14/kernel/futex.c
@@ -323,10 +323,6 @@ static int futex_wake(unsigned long uadd
         ret = get_futex_key(uaddr, &key, &head, &sem);
         if (unlikely(ret != 0))
                 goto out;
-       if (head == NULL) {
-               ret = -EINVAL;
-               goto out;
-       }

         bh = hash_futex(&key);
         spin_lock(&bh->lock);


Let me get the build fixed and add a new test for myself.  I'll start  
running
this on my desktop to do builds, run mozilla and firefox, and generally
do all my normal work.

David
>
>   
> http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/older/patch-2.6.14- 
> rt16
>
>> The previous patches only supported either file based pthread_mutexes
>> or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch allows
>> pthread_mutexes to be 'malloc'ed while using the
>> PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.
>>
>> The patch can be found at:
>>
>> http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton
>
> this patch looks much cleaner than the earlier one, but there's one  
> more
> step to go: now that we've got the futex_head in every vma, why not  
> hang
> all robust futexes to the vma, and thus get rid of ->robust_list and
> ->robust_sem from struct address_space?
>
> 	Ingo


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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-11-26  7:42 robust futex heap support patch david singleton
  2005-11-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
@ 2005-12-05 22:30 ` Esben Nielsen
  2005-12-06  4:51   ` david singleton
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Esben Nielsen @ 2005-12-05 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: david singleton; +Cc: robustmutexes, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel

Hi,
 I got a little time to look at your current patch (2.6.14-rt21-rf8).
I noticed a problem in futex_wake_robust(). You have a "goto retry" to
solve the following situation:

  Task A                             Task B
      takes futex in userspace
                                     Tries to take mutex and sets the
                                     waiting bit in user space
      releases futex, notices task B
      calls kernel and enters
      futex_wake_robust()

    retry:
      if not owner in rt_mutex
         goto retry;      
                                     Calls kernel
                                     Makes A owner in rt_mutex
                                     blocks
       Leaves retry-loop and 
       completes the futex wake 
       operation as normally.
       

However,  if Task A is RT on a UP machine it will go on in the retry loop
forever. Task B will never get the CPU to complete it's kernel-call. 

You have probably by manipulating the userspace flag from within the
rt_mutex code :-(

Esben
                    

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, david singleton wrote:

> There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1,  that adds support for 
> robust and priority inheriting
> pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.
> 
> The previous patches only supported either file based pthread_mutexes 
> or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch allows 
> pthread_mutexes
> to be 'malloc'ed while using the PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute
> or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.
> 
> The patch can be found at:
> 
> http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton
> 
> David
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
> 


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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-12-05 22:30 ` Esben Nielsen
@ 2005-12-06  4:51   ` david singleton
  2005-12-06 14:06     ` Esben Nielsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: david singleton @ 2005-12-06  4:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Esben Nielsen; +Cc: robustmutexes, linux-kernel, Ingo Molnar


On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Esben Nielsen wrote:

I'm currently trying to close a race condition between futex_wait_robust
and futex_wake_robust that Dave Carlson is seeing on his SMP system.

The scenario is as follows:

Thread A locks an pthread_mutex via the fast path and does not enter 
the kernel.

Thread B tries to lock the lock and sees it is already locked.  Thread 
B sets the
waiters flag in the lock and enters the kernel to lock the lock on 
behalf of
thread A and then block on the mutex waiting for it's release.

Thread A unlocks the lock and sees the waiters flag set.  Thread A gets
to the futex_wake_robust before Thread B can get to futex_wait_robust.

Thread A sees that it does not own the lock in the kernel and was 
returning EINVAL.

patch-2.6.14-rt21-rf8 was a preliminary patch for Dave Carlson to try 
and get more information about
the race condition.   ( rf8 and rf9 are still returning EAGAIN from 
thread B trying to
do the futex_wait_robust and the library should be retrying with 
EAGAIN, but it currently isn't).

When I get the race condition closed I'll post the patch and notify 
everyone on lkml
and the robustmutexes mailing lists.

David



> Hi,
>  I got a little time to look at your current patch (2.6.14-rt21-rf8).
> I noticed a problem in futex_wake_robust(). You have a "goto retry" to
> solve the following situation:
>
>   Task A                             Task B
>       takes futex in userspace
>                                      Tries to take mutex and sets the
>                                      waiting bit in user space
>       releases futex, notices task B
>       calls kernel and enters
>       futex_wake_robust()
>
>     retry:
>       if not owner in rt_mutex
>          goto retry;
>                                      Calls kernel
>                                      Makes A owner in rt_mutex
>                                      blocks
>        Leaves retry-loop and
>        completes the futex wake
>        operation as normally.
>
>
> However,  if Task A is RT on a UP machine it will go on in the retry 
> loop
> forever. Task B will never get the CPU to complete it's kernel-call.
>
> You have probably by manipulating the userspace flag from within the
> rt_mutex code :-(
>
> Esben
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, david singleton wrote:
>
>> There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1,  that adds support for
>> robust and priority inheriting
>> pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.
>>
>> The previous patches only supported either file based pthread_mutexes
>> or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch allows
>> pthread_mutexes
>> to be 'malloc'ed while using the PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute
>> or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.
>>
>> The patch can be found at:
>>
>> http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton
>>
>> David
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe 
>> linux-kernel" in
>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>>
>


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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-12-06  4:51   ` david singleton
@ 2005-12-06 14:06     ` Esben Nielsen
  2005-12-06 15:23       ` david singleton
  2005-12-07  1:23       ` Randy.Dunlap
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Esben Nielsen @ 2005-12-06 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: david singleton; +Cc: robustmutexes, linux-kernel, Ingo Molnar

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, david singleton wrote:

> 
> On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Esben Nielsen wrote:
> 
> I'm currently trying to close a race condition between futex_wait_robust
> and futex_wake_robust that Dave Carlson is seeing on his SMP system.
> 
> The scenario is as follows:
> 
> Thread A locks an pthread_mutex via the fast path and does not enter 
> the kernel.
> 
> Thread B tries to lock the lock and sees it is already locked.  Thread 
> B sets the
> waiters flag in the lock and enters the kernel to lock the lock on 
> behalf of
> thread A and then block on the mutex waiting for it's release.
> 
> Thread A unlocks the lock and sees the waiters flag set.  Thread A gets
> to the futex_wake_robust before Thread B can get to futex_wait_robust.
> 
> Thread A sees that it does not own the lock in the kernel and was 
> returning EINVAL.
> 
> patch-2.6.14-rt21-rf8 was a preliminary patch for Dave Carlson to try 
> and get more information about
> the race condition.   ( rf8 and rf9 are still returning EAGAIN from 
> thread B trying to
> do the futex_wait_robust and the library should be retrying with 
> EAGAIN, but it currently isn't).
> 

*nod*
I just pointed out that you can't make thread A loop the way you do.

What I would do was to do the user space flag checks while having the
raw spinlock of the rt_mutex. That way you are sure that stuff in the
kernel is serialized. But I don't know what to do exactly to do in
there....


> When I get the race condition closed I'll post the patch and notify 
> everyone on lkml
> and the robustmutexes mailing lists.

Where can I sign up to that mailing list? I would like to follow the
development, although I don't have much time to contibute.

Esben

> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >  I got a little time to look at your current patch (2.6.14-rt21-rf8).
> > I noticed a problem in futex_wake_robust(). You have a "goto retry" to
> > solve the following situation:
> >
> >   Task A                             Task B
> >       takes futex in userspace
> >                                      Tries to take mutex and sets the
> >                                      waiting bit in user space
> >       releases futex, notices task B
> >       calls kernel and enters
> >       futex_wake_robust()
> >
> >     retry:
> >       if not owner in rt_mutex
> >          goto retry;
> >                                      Calls kernel
> >                                      Makes A owner in rt_mutex
> >                                      blocks
> >        Leaves retry-loop and
> >        completes the futex wake
> >        operation as normally.
> >
> >
> > However,  if Task A is RT on a UP machine it will go on in the retry 
> > loop
> > forever. Task B will never get the CPU to complete it's kernel-call.
> >
> > You have probably by manipulating the userspace flag from within the
> > rt_mutex code :-(
> >
> > Esben
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, david singleton wrote:
> >
> >> There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1,  that adds support for
> >> robust and priority inheriting
> >> pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.
> >>
> >> The previous patches only supported either file based pthread_mutexes
> >> or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch allows
> >> pthread_mutexes
> >> to be 'malloc'ed while using the PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute
> >> or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.
> >>
> >> The patch can be found at:
> >>
> >> http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> -
> >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe 
> >> linux-kernel" in
> >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> >> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> >> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
> >>
> >
> 


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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-12-06 14:06     ` Esben Nielsen
@ 2005-12-06 15:23       ` david singleton
  2005-12-07  1:23       ` Randy.Dunlap
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: david singleton @ 2005-12-06 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Esben Nielsen; +Cc: robustmutexes, linux-kernel, Ingo Molnar


On Dec 6, 2005, at 6:06 AM, Esben Nielsen wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, david singleton wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Esben Nielsen wrote:
>>
>> I'm currently trying to close a race condition between 
>> futex_wait_robust
>> and futex_wake_robust that Dave Carlson is seeing on his SMP system.
>>
>> The scenario is as follows:
>>
>> Thread A locks an pthread_mutex via the fast path and does not enter
>> the kernel.
>>
>> Thread B tries to lock the lock and sees it is already locked.  Thread
>> B sets the
>> waiters flag in the lock and enters the kernel to lock the lock on
>> behalf of
>> thread A and then block on the mutex waiting for it's release.
>>
>> Thread A unlocks the lock and sees the waiters flag set.  Thread A 
>> gets
>> to the futex_wake_robust before Thread B can get to futex_wait_robust.
>>
>> Thread A sees that it does not own the lock in the kernel and was
>> returning EINVAL.
>>
>> patch-2.6.14-rt21-rf8 was a preliminary patch for Dave Carlson to try
>> and get more information about
>> the race condition.   ( rf8 and rf9 are still returning EAGAIN from
>> thread B trying to
>> do the futex_wait_robust and the library should be retrying with
>> EAGAIN, but it currently isn't).
>>
>
> *nod*
> I just pointed out that you can't make thread A loop the way you do.
>
> What I would do was to do the user space flag checks while having the
> raw spinlock of the rt_mutex. That way you are sure that stuff in the
> kernel is serialized. But I don't know what to do exactly to do in
> there....

Yes, and you are correct.  That patch was an attempt at seeing how far 
the wake code
had to go to let the waiters in on an SMP machine.
>
>
>> When I get the race condition closed I'll post the patch and notify
>> everyone on lkml
>> and the robustmutexes mailing lists.
>
> Where can I sign up to that mailing list? I would like to follow the
> development, although I don't have much time to contibute.

The mail lists you cc'd will do it,  robustmutexes@lists.osdl.ork and 
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org.

David

>
> Esben
>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>  I got a little time to look at your current patch (2.6.14-rt21-rf8).
>>> I noticed a problem in futex_wake_robust(). You have a "goto retry" 
>>> to
>>> solve the following situation:
>>>
>>>   Task A                             Task B
>>>       takes futex in userspace
>>>                                      Tries to take mutex and sets the
>>>                                      waiting bit in user space
>>>       releases futex, notices task B
>>>       calls kernel and enters
>>>       futex_wake_robust()
>>>
>>>     retry:
>>>       if not owner in rt_mutex
>>>          goto retry;
>>>                                      Calls kernel
>>>                                      Makes A owner in rt_mutex
>>>                                      blocks
>>>        Leaves retry-loop and
>>>        completes the futex wake
>>>        operation as normally.
>>>
>>>
>>> However,  if Task A is RT on a UP machine it will go on in the retry
>>> loop
>>> forever. Task B will never get the CPU to complete it's kernel-call.
>>>
>>> You have probably by manipulating the userspace flag from within the
>>> rt_mutex code :-(
>>>
>>> Esben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, david singleton wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is a new patch, patch-2.6.14-rt15-rf1,  that adds support for
>>>> robust and priority inheriting
>>>> pthread_mutexes on the 'heap'.
>>>>
>>>> The previous patches only supported either file based 
>>>> pthread_mutexes
>>>> or mmapped anonymous memory based pthread_mutexes.  This patch 
>>>> allows
>>>> pthread_mutexes
>>>> to be 'malloc'ed while using the PTHREAD_MUTEX_ROBUST_NP attribute
>>>> or PTHREAD_PRIO_INHERIT attribute.
>>>>
>>>> The patch can be found at:
>>>>
>>>> http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe
>>>> linux-kernel" in
>>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>>>> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>>> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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* Re: robust futex heap support patch
  2005-12-06 14:06     ` Esben Nielsen
  2005-12-06 15:23       ` david singleton
@ 2005-12-07  1:23       ` Randy.Dunlap
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Randy.Dunlap @ 2005-12-07  1:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Esben Nielsen; +Cc: dsingleton, robustmutexes, linux-kernel, mingo

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:06:12 +0100 (MET) Esben Nielsen wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, david singleton wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Esben Nielsen wrote:
> > 
> > I'm currently trying to close a race condition between futex_wait_robust
> > and futex_wake_robust that Dave Carlson is seeing on his SMP system.
> > 
> > The scenario is as follows:
> > 
> > Thread A locks an pthread_mutex via the fast path and does not enter 
> > the kernel.
> > 
> > Thread B tries to lock the lock and sees it is already locked.  Thread 
> > B sets the
> > waiters flag in the lock and enters the kernel to lock the lock on 
> > behalf of
> > thread A and then block on the mutex waiting for it's release.
> > 
> > Thread A unlocks the lock and sees the waiters flag set.  Thread A gets
> > to the futex_wake_robust before Thread B can get to futex_wait_robust.
> > 
> > Thread A sees that it does not own the lock in the kernel and was 
> > returning EINVAL.
> > 
> > patch-2.6.14-rt21-rf8 was a preliminary patch for Dave Carlson to try 
> > and get more information about
> > the race condition.   ( rf8 and rf9 are still returning EAGAIN from 
> > thread B trying to
> > do the futex_wait_robust and the library should be retrying with 
> > EAGAIN, but it currently isn't).
> > 
> 
> *nod*
> I just pointed out that you can't make thread A loop the way you do.
> 
> What I would do was to do the user space flag checks while having the
> raw spinlock of the rt_mutex. That way you are sure that stuff in the
> kernel is serialized. But I don't know what to do exactly to do in
> there....
> 
> 
> > When I get the race condition closed I'll post the patch and notify 
> > everyone on lkml
> > and the robustmutexes mailing lists.
> 
> Where can I sign up to that mailing list? I would like to follow the
> development, although I don't have much time to contibute.

http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/robustmutexes/


---
~Randy

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