From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: sekharan@us.ibm.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
paulmck@us.ibm.com, kaos@sgi.com, greg@kroah.com,
Douglas_Warzecha@dell.com, Abhay_Salunke@dell.com,
achim_leubner@adaptec.com, dmp@davidmpye.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7]: Fix for unsafe notifier chain
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:07:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051126200741.421a342a.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132789071.9460.16.camel@linuxchandra>
Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I posted this set of patch to lkml last Friday as an RFC. Can you
> consider these for -mm inclusion.
This all looks exotically complex.
> ...
>
> Here are the details:
> In 2.6.14, notifier chains are unsafe. notifier_call_chain() walks through
> the list of a call chain without any protection.
>
> Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> brought the issue and suggested a fix
> in lkml on Oct 24 2005:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113018709002036&w=2
>
> There was a lot of discussion on that thread regarding the issue, and
> following were the conclusions about the requirements of the notifier
> call mechanism:
>
> - The chain list has to be protected in all the places where the
> list is accessed.
> - We need a new notifier_head data structure to encompass the head
> of the notifier chain and a semaphore that protects the list.
> - There should be two types of call chains: one that is called in
> a process context and another that is called in atomic/interrupt
> context.
> - No lock should be acquired in notifier_call_chain() for an
> atomic-type chain.
> - notifier_chain_register() and notifier_chain_unregister() should
> be called only from process context.
> - notifier_chain_unregister() should _not_ be called from a
> callout routine.
>
> I posted an RFC that meets the above listed requirements last Friday:
> - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113175279131346&w=2
>
> Paul McKenney provided some suggestions w.r.t RCU usage. This patchset fixes
> the issues he raised. Keith Owens posted some changes to the diechain for
> various architectures; his changes are included here.
- You don't state _why_ a callback cannot call
notifier_chain_unregister(). I assume that's because of the use of
write_lock() locking?
We could do this with a new callback function return code and do it in
the core, or just change the code so it is permitted.
- You don't explain why RCU has been introduced into this subsystem.
Seems overkillish, or was it done as a way to solve the correctness
problems?
- Generally, please don't put so much stuff into the [patch 0/N] email.
We never put empty patches into git so some sucker has to move all the
[0/N] content into [1/N]. Better that it's you than me.
- Overall take on the patches: the problem here is that notifier chains
try to provide their own locking. Each time we design a container which
does that, we screw it up and we regret it.
Please consider removing all locking from the notifer chains and moving
it into the callers.
A migration path would be:
- Introduce a new notifier API which is wholly unlocked
- Migrate all callers over to that
- Remove the current implementation
Note that with this scheme, callbacks which wish to call the unregister
function can do that, as long as they are not using read_lock() or
down_read() during the chain traversal.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-27 4:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-23 23:37 Chandra Seetharaman
2005-11-27 4:07 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-11-27 13:47 ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-27 15:59 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-27 17:27 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-27 17:39 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-27 19:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-27 22:03 ` Greg KH
2005-11-28 2:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-11-28 4:57 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-28 4:59 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-28 5:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-11-28 5:15 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-28 8:31 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-28 12:07 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-28 19:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-04 16:19 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-06 23:38 ` Keith Owens
2005-12-07 2:43 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-28 1:19 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-28 18:58 ` Chandra Seetharaman
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