From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: oliver@neukum.org, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, psusi@cfl.rr.com,
pavel@suse.cz, torvalds@osdl.org, mrmacman_g4@mac.com,
alon.barlev@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler?
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:57:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060219235752.2d6e252c.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060219232926.256665d6.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> > If you simply block writes, the system will stall random tasks laundering
> > pages, including those needed to make progress. Even syncing before
> > suspend won't help you, as a running user space may dirty pages.
>
> Well of _course_ that will happen.
Actually, it won't happen. There's already logic in there to help pdflush,
kswapd and memory-allocating tasks avoid blocking on congested queues.
It's trivial to extend that to avoidance of hotunplugged queues.
Things like sync(), fsync(), O_SYNC and reads will necessarily block.
We may or may not decide to block on page-dirtyings. Again, that's trivial
to do in balance_dirty_pages().
Race conditions are pretty much unavoidable - if someone goes and disables
a device when we're partway through and committed to I/O submission then
things will get very sticky. But we can have a pretty successful solution
to all of this without a ton of effort.
But this is all the easy part.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-20 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-12 16:57 Alan Stern
2006-02-13 0:51 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 2:19 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 3:52 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 5:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-13 16:40 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 16:31 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 17:14 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 20:38 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 19:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 21:08 ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-02-13 23:47 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 0:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 2:09 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 4:09 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 4:28 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 5:11 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 15:33 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 6:27 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 16:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 18:39 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 21:13 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 23:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-15 3:08 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:14 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 19:37 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-17 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 16:34 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-18 17:29 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 5:52 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 9:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 16:35 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:41 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 19:17 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 19:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20 0:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 1:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20 1:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 4:04 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:16 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-02-18 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 0:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 6:02 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 6:32 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 16:39 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:54 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 21:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20 6:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-20 7:29 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20 7:57 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-02-14 14:15 ` hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
2006-02-15 23:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-13 2:25 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-13 19:16 David Brownell
2006-02-13 20:08 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 3:10 ` David Brownell
2006-02-14 6:05 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 17:04 ` David Brownell
2006-02-15 23:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 20:51 ` David Brownell
2006-02-19 6:06 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 5:50 ` David Brownell
2006-02-20 16:07 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 16:51 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 18:20 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 18:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 21:45 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-21 16:19 ` David Brownell
2006-02-21 18:30 ` Phillip Susi
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