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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, trini@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] Validate itimer timeval from userspace
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:25:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060318142520.2dcbb46c.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142719518.10017.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 13:09 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Of course I can convert it that way, if we want to keep this "help
> > > sloppy programmers aid" alive.
> > > 
> > 
> > It would be strange to set an alarm for 0xffffffff seconds in the future
> > but yeah, unless we can point at a reason why nobody could have ever been
> > doing that, we should turn this into permanent, documented behaviour of
> > Linux 2.6 and earlier, I'm afraid.
> 
> We have to take two things into account:
> 
> 1. sys_alarm()
> 
> The alarm value 0xFFFFFFFF is valid as the argument to alarm() is an
> unsigned int. So we have to convert this to 0x7FFFFFFF (for 32bit
> machines) because timeval.tv_sec is a signed long. This is done by the
> alarm patch, which is necessary whether we check the sanity of the
> timeval in do_setitimer or not. The current -rc6 kernel sends the alarm
> with the next timer tick, which will break an application which set it
> to something > INT_MAX. 
> 
> Of course we could do this by the silent conversion of negative values
> in setitimer too. But thats insane as we rely on some broken feature.

So you're saying that sys_alarm(0xffffffff) needs to behave as
sys_alarm(0x7ffffffff)?

I guess if we have to do it that way, the risk of breaking anything is very
small.

What's the 2.4/2.6.13 behaviour of sys_alarm(0xffffffff)?

> 2. setitimer()
> 
> An application would have to set value.it_value.tv_sec to a negative
> value to trigger this. Also uninitialized usage of struct timevals can
> cause such behaviour.
> 
> I'm not sure, if it is sane to ingore this.

What does 2.4/2.6.13 do?   Let's do that.

If you're proposing that we depart from previous behaviour by converting
setitimer(0xffffffff) into setitimer(0x7fffffff) then I guess we could live
with that.

> I can change the itimer
> validate patch for now to do
> 
> if (unlikely(!timeval_valid(v))
> 	fixup_timeval(v);
> 
> and print an appropriate warning in fixup_timeval() for the time being.
> 

No, we cannot warn - it'll enable unprivileged users to spam the logs.

One could generate a once-per-reboot warning, I guess.  The message should
include the PID and current->comm.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-18 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-18 15:18 [patch 0/2] sys_setitimer and sys_alarm hotfixes Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 15:18 ` [patch 1/2] Validate itimer timeval from userspace Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 19:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-18 19:57     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 20:07   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-18 20:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 20:31       ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-18 20:38         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 21:09           ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-18 21:26             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-18 21:33               ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-18 21:50                 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-18 22:05             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 22:25               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-03-18 23:12                 ` tglx
2006-03-18 20:45         ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-18 22:02           ` Ray Lee
2006-03-18 23:14           ` Eric Piel
2006-03-19  8:55             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-18 20:23     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-18 20:30       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 21:04         ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-21 15:31           ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-18 15:18 ` [patch 2/2] alarm unsigned signed conversion fixup Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 20:02   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 20:12   ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-18 20:27     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-03-18 21:06       ` Andrew Morton

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