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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	bugsplatter@gmail.com
Subject: Re: interactive task starvation
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:37:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603220037.52258.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142948000.7807.63.camel@homer>

On Wednesday 22 March 2006 00:33, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 00:13 +1100, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Wednesday 22 March 2006 00:10, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > How long should Willy be able to scroll without feeling the background,
> > > and how long should Apache be able to starve his shell.  They are one
> > > and the same, and I can't say, because I'm not Willy.  I don't know how
> > > to get there from here without tunables.  Picking defaults is one
> > > thing, but I don't know how to make it one-size-fits-all.  For the
> > > general case, the values delivered will work fine.  For the apache
> > > case, they absolutely 100% guaranteed will not.
> >
> > So how do you propose we tune such a beast then? Apache users will use
> > off, everyone else will have no idea but to use the defaults.
>
> Set for desktop, which is intended to mostly emulate what we have right
> now, which most people are quite happy with.  The throttle will still
> nail most of the corner cases, and the other adjustments nail the
> majority of what's left.  That leaves the hefty server type loads as
> what certainly will require tuning.  They always need tuning.

That still sounds like just on/off to me. Default for desktop and 0,0 for 
server. Am I missing something?

Cheers,
Con

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-21 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-07 23:13 [PATCH] mm: yield during swap prefetching Con Kolivas
2006-03-07 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-07 23:32   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  0:05     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08  0:51       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  1:11         ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08  1:12           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  1:19             ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  1:23             ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08  1:28               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:08                 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  2:12                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:18                     ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  2:22                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:27                         ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  2:30                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08  2:52                             ` [ck] " André Goddard Rosa
2006-03-08  3:03                               ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  3:05                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 21:07                                 ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-08 23:00                                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 23:48                                     ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-09  0:07                                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  3:13                                         ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-09  4:08                                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  4:54                                             ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  7:51                 ` Jan Knutar
2006-03-08  8:39                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  8:57             ` Helge Hafting
2006-03-09  9:08               ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]                 ` <4410AFD3.7090505@bigpond.net.au>
2006-03-10  9:01                   ` [ck] " Andreas Mohr
2006-03-10  9:11                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 22:24       ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-09  2:22         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09  2:30           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09  2:57             ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09  9:11               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 13:36     ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2006-03-17  9:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17 10:46         ` interactive task starvation Mike Galbraith
2006-03-17 17:15           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-20  7:09             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-20 10:22               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21  6:47               ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21  7:51                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21  9:13                   ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21  9:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 11:15                       ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 11:18                         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 11:53                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 13:10                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:13                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 13:33                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:37                                   ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-03-21 13:44                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 13:45                                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:01                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:17                                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 15:20                                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 17:50                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-22  4:18                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 17:51                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:38                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 13:48                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 12:07                           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 12:59                             ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 13:24                               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:53                                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:17                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:19                                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:25                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 14:28                                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:30                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 14:28                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:30                                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:32                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 14:44                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 14:52                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-29  3:01                                                 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-29  5:56                                                   ` Ray Lee
2006-03-29  6:16                                                     ` Lee Revell
2006-03-21 14:36                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:39                                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:39                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 18:39                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-21 19:32                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 21:47                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-21 22:51                                 ` Peter Williams
2006-03-22  3:49                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-22  3:59                                     ` Peter Williams
2006-03-22 12:14                                     ` [interbench numbers] " Mike Galbraith
2006-03-22 20:27                                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-23  3:22                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-23  5:43                                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-23  5:53                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-23 11:07                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24  0:21                                                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24  5:02                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24  5:04                                                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 12:38         ` [PATCH] sched: activate SCHED BATCH expired Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 13:07           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17 13:26           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 13:36             ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 13:46               ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 13:51                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 14:11                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 14:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17 13:47               ` [ck] " Andreas Mohr
2006-03-17 13:59                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 14:06                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-08  8:48   ` [ck] Re: [PATCH] mm: yield during swap prefetching Andreas Mohr
2006-03-08  8:52     ` Con Kolivas

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