From: "Ray Lee" <madrabbit@gmail.com>
To: "Lee Revell" <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>, "Willy Tarreau" <willy@w.ods.org>,
"Con Kolivas" <kernel@kolivas.org>,
"Mike Galbraith" <efault@gmx.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
bugsplatter@gmail.com
Subject: Re: interactive task starvation
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:56:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c0942db0603282156x468f4246nae414b2a853668dc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1143601277.3330.2.camel@mindpipe>
On 3/28/06, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> Can you explain why terminal output ping-pongs back and forth between
> taking a certain amount of time, and approximately 10x longer?
[...]
> Why does it ping-pong between taking ~0.08s and ~0.75s like that? The
> behavior is completely reproducible.
Does the scheduler have any concept of dependent tasks? (If so, hit
<delete> and move on.) If not, then the producer and consumer will be
scheduled randomly w/r/t each other, right? Sometimes producer then
consumer, sometimes vice versa. If so, the ping pong should be half of
the time slow, half of the time fast (+/- sqrt(N)), and the slow time
should scale directly with the number of tasks running on the system.
Do any of the above WAGs match what you see? If so, then perhaps it's
random just due to the order in which the tasks get initially
scheduled (dmesg vs ssh, or dmesg vs xterm vs X -- er, though I guess
in that latter case there's really <thinks> three separate timings
that you'd get back, as the triple set of tasks could be in one of six
orderings, one fast, one slow, and four equally mixed between the
two).
I wonder if on a pipe write, moving the reader to be right after the
writer in the list would even that out. (But only on cases where the
reader didn't just run -- wouldn't want a back and forth conversation
to starve everyone else...)
But like I said, just a WAG.
Ray
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-29 5:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-07 23:13 [PATCH] mm: yield during swap prefetching Con Kolivas
2006-03-07 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-07 23:32 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08 0:51 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 1:11 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08 1:12 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 1:19 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 1:23 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-08 1:28 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 2:08 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08 2:12 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 2:18 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08 2:22 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 2:27 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08 2:30 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 2:52 ` [ck] " André Goddard Rosa
2006-03-08 3:03 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08 3:05 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 21:07 ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-08 23:00 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 23:48 ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-09 0:07 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09 3:13 ` Zan Lynx
2006-03-09 4:08 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09 4:54 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08 7:51 ` Jan Knutar
2006-03-08 8:39 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09 8:57 ` Helge Hafting
2006-03-09 9:08 ` Con Kolivas
[not found] ` <4410AFD3.7090505@bigpond.net.au>
2006-03-10 9:01 ` [ck] " Andreas Mohr
2006-03-10 9:11 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 22:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-09 2:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09 2:30 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-09 2:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09 9:11 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-08 13:36 ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 9:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17 10:46 ` interactive task starvation Mike Galbraith
2006-03-17 17:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-20 7:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-20 10:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 6:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 7:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 9:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 11:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 11:53 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 13:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:13 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 13:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:37 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 13:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 13:45 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:17 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 15:20 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 17:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-22 4:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 17:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:38 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 13:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 12:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 12:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 13:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 13:53 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:19 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 14:28 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 14:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:30 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-21 14:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 14:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-29 3:01 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-29 5:56 ` Ray Lee [this message]
2006-03-29 6:16 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-21 14:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-21 14:39 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-21 14:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 18:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-21 19:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-21 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-21 22:51 ` Peter Williams
2006-03-22 3:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-22 3:59 ` Peter Williams
2006-03-22 12:14 ` [interbench numbers] " Mike Galbraith
2006-03-22 20:27 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-23 3:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-23 5:43 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-23 5:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-23 11:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 0:21 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 5:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 5:04 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 12:38 ` [PATCH] sched: activate SCHED BATCH expired Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 13:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17 13:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 13:36 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 13:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 13:51 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-17 14:11 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 14:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-17 13:47 ` [ck] " Andreas Mohr
2006-03-17 13:59 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-17 14:06 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-08 8:48 ` [ck] Re: [PATCH] mm: yield during swap prefetching Andreas Mohr
2006-03-08 8:52 ` Con Kolivas
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