From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, jeff@garzik.org, axboe@suse.de, mingo@elte.hu,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Robert S Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice support #2
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:43:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060330184325.35e21117.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <442C7EF5.8090703@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Also,
> might you be able to do a single file-sized file<->file splice,
> and have it do a remote copy on a suitable network fs
splice() may not be suitable for such filesystems. Quoting Robert Peterson
from earlier this week:
> The problem is that
> loop.c circumvents proper locking by going directly to prepare_write
> rather than following the normal process. If I added some kind of
> library callbacks to allow cluster locking, it would break the
> normal locking sequence of an ordinary write.
>
> The normal sequence of an ordinary write typically looks like:
>
> 1. write
> 2. (Take care of cluster locking if necessary)
> 3. generic_file_write_nolock
> 4. generic_file_aio_write_nolock
> 5. generic_file_buffered_write
> 6. a_ops->prepare_write
> etc.
>
> Right now, loop.c is circumventing step 2 (optional cluster locking
> if needed by the underlying fs) by bypassing the "write" op. If I
> added callbacks to prepare_write at (7) as you suggest, it would either
> (a) introduce deadlocks conflicting with step 2 above or
> (b) require the underlying fs to use its own versions of 3,4,5, and 6,
> thus bypassing a great deal of vfs, which is not good for anyone.
>
> Some could argue that loop.c should always use write rather than
> prepare_write/commit_write, but most fs's don't have special
> locking needs and therefore using them is a performance boost.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-31 2:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-30 10:06 Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 10:16 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 10:24 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 11:16 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 11:55 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:30 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:30 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 19:19 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-30 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:05 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:16 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 12:42 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-30 13:02 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-30 14:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-30 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-30 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 20:38 ` Hua Zhong
2006-03-31 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-30 20:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-30 21:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 0:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31 2:43 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-03-31 2:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-31 3:20 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31 6:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-31 7:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-02 22:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-31 12:46 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-03-31 9:56 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 12:23 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:26 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 18:18 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-31 0:03 linux
2006-03-31 6:06 tridge
2006-03-31 6:59 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-03-31 7:37 ` tridge
2006-03-31 9:57 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-31 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-31 19:40 ` Jens Axboe
2006-04-04 17:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2006-04-04 17:34 ` Jens Axboe
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2006-04-03 12:39 ` Bodo Eggert
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