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From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] quell interactive feeding frenzy
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:31:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200604161131.02585.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200604161602.22177.kernel@kolivas.org>

Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Thursday 13 April 2006 01:25, Al Boldi wrote:
> > Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > mean 68.7 seconds
> > >
> > > range 63-73 seconds.
> >
> > Could this 10s skew be improved to around 1s to aid smoothness?
>
> It turns out to be dependant on accounting of system time which only
> staircase does at the moment btw. Currently it's done on a jiffy basis. To
> increase the accuracy of this would incur incredible cost which I don't
> consider worth it.

Is this also related to that?

> > Much smoother, but I still get this choke w/ 2 eatm 9999 loops running:
> >
> > 9 MB 783 KB eaten in 130 msec (74 MB/s)
> > 9 MB 783 KB eaten in 2416 msec (3 MB/s)		<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > 9 MB 783 KB eaten in 197 msec (48 MB/s)
> >
> > You may have to adjust the kb to get the same effect.
>
> I've seen it. It's an artefact of timekeeping that it takes an
> accumulation of data to get all the information. Not much I can do about
> it except to have timeslices so small that they thrash the crap out of cpu
> caches and completely destroy throughput.

So why is this not visible in other schedulers?

Are you sure this is not a priority boost problem?

> The current value, 6ms at 1000HZ, is chosen because it's the largest value
> that can schedule a task in less than normal human perceptible range when
> two competing heavily cpu bound tasks are the same priority. At 250HZ it
> works out to 7.5ms and 10ms at 100HZ. Ironically in my experimenting I
> found the cpu cache improvements become much less significant above 7ms so
> I'm very happy with this compromise.

Would you think this is dependent on cache-size and cpu-speed?

Also, what's this iso_cpu thing?

> Thanks!

Thank you!

--
Al


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-16  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200604112100.28725.kernel@kolivas.org>
2006-04-11 17:03 ` Fwd: " Al Boldi
2006-04-11 22:56   ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-12  5:41     ` Al Boldi
2006-04-12  6:22       ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-12  8:17         ` Al Boldi
2006-04-12  9:36           ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-12 10:39             ` Al Boldi
2006-04-12 11:27               ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-12 15:25                 ` Al Boldi
2006-04-13 11:51                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-14  3:16                     ` Al Boldi
2006-04-15  7:05                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-15 18:23                         ` [ck] " Michael Gerdau
2006-04-15 20:45                         ` Al Boldi
2006-04-15 23:22                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-16 18:44                             ` [ck] " Andreas Mohr
2006-04-17  0:08                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-19  8:37                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-04-19  8:59                                   ` jos poortvliet
2006-04-15 22:32                         ` jos poortvliet
2006-04-15 23:06                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-16  6:02                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-16  8:31                     ` Al Boldi [this message]
2006-04-16  8:58                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-16 10:37                       ` was " Con Kolivas
2006-04-16 19:03                         ` Al Boldi
2006-04-16 23:26                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-09 16:44 [patch][rfc] " Al Boldi
2006-04-09 18:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-10 14:43   ` Al Boldi
2006-04-11 10:57     ` Con Kolivas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-07  9:38 Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07  9:47 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-07  9:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-07 10:57     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07 11:00       ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-07 11:09         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07 10:40   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07 12:56 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-07 13:37   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07 13:56     ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-07 14:14       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07 15:16         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-09 11:14         ` bert hubert
2006-04-09 11:39           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-09 12:14             ` bert hubert
2006-04-09 18:07               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-10  9:12                 ` bert hubert
2006-04-10 10:00                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-10 14:56                     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-13  7:41                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-13 10:16                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-13 11:05                           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-09 18:24               ` Mike Galbraith

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