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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Jared Hulbert" <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Advanced XIP File System
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 02:00:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605030200.29141.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0605021453l31a438c4j7c429e6973ab4546@mail.gmail.com>

Am Tuesday 02 May 2006 23:53 schrieb Jared Hulbert:
> I will be submitting a new filesystem for inclusion into the kernel as
> soon as it is ready.  (It mounts but doesn't like doing much else
> right now.)  I would like to get feedback now to mold the development
> as we go along.  Please comment on the technical approaches and other
> inherent qualities or lack thereof.  Let me know of any serious
> obstacles to inclusion in the mainline.  We will Lindent it and clean
> it up quite a bit before really submitting.
>
> You may find it at its very boring sourceforge site
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/axfs/.  Browse the source at
> http://svn.sourceforge.net/axfs
> Or get the tarball at
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/axfs/axfs-0.1.tar.gz?download
>
>
> What is it?:
> - AXFS for Advanced XIP File System.
> - Intended to be a root filesystem for embedded systems
> - Readonly
> - Uses addressable memory such as NOR flash instead of a block device
> - Borrows much from CRAMFS with Linear XIP patches
> - Allows XIP* of individual pages instead of just individual files
> - Uses filemap_xip.c where possible
>
> * By XIP, eXecute In Place, we mean that when a file is mmap'd() the
> pages are mapped directly to where they are stored in non volatile
> storage, rather than copied to RAM in the page cache and mapped from
> there

Nice, this is the first time I heard of anyone using filemap_xip on MTD.

> Why a new filesystem?
> - XIP of kernel is mainline, but not XIP of applications.  This
> enables application XIP

ext2fs does have XIP of applications, but of course only works on
block devices, not MTD. Is there more missing than an implementation
of block_device_operations::direct_access for mtd_blktrans_ops?

Why can't you get the same result with a combination of cramfs for
data files and ext2 with -o xip for your mmapped binaries?

> - Cramfs linear XIP patches not suitable for submission and lack some
> features of AXFS

Is that a fundamental problem of cramfs, or rather a problem of the
implementation of the linear XIP patches for it? IOW, can't you just
do a better patch to add filemap_xip support to cramfs?

> - Design allows for tighter packing of data and higher performance
> than XIP cramfs

why? by how much?

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-03  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-02 21:53 Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03  0:00 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2006-05-03  1:59   ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03  2:27     ` Josh Boyer
2006-05-03  5:04       ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03  8:31         ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-03 19:14     ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-04 16:32       ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03  0:56 ` Josh Boyer
2006-05-03  3:17   ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-03 10:41     ` Josh Boyer
2006-05-03 12:11       ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-03 15:45         ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 15:52           ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-03 15:57           ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-03 16:01             ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-03 16:10               ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-03  5:11   ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 12:50 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-03 15:33   ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 13:05 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 15:31   ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 15:47     ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 15:58       ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 17:03         ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 18:58           ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 16:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-03 18:54   ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-03 23:17     ` Josh Boyer
2006-05-03 23:48       ` Jared Hulbert
2006-05-04  0:21         ` Josh Boyer
2006-05-03 22:49   ` David Woodhouse

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