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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, apw@shadowen.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 NUMA panic compile error
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:43:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060515184319.GA19576@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060515113439.457f5809.akpm@osdl.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:

> > But testing on a 64bit box - even with numa emulation - would be much
> > better because on 32bit ZONE_NORMAL often is node 0 only and you won't 
> > get much numaness for kernel objects.
> 
> That's an excellent point - most developers who are likely to want to 
> test NUMA have x86_64 boxes and x86_64 has NUMA-emulation-on-SMP.  I'd 
> semi-forgotten that it existed.
> 
> This rather weakens the reasons for retaining support for 
> NUMA-on-non-summit-x86.  Ingo?

my 64-bit boxes (half of the testbed) are busy ones used for daily 
testing that i just cannot keep running for days doing stress-tests. 
Neither can they wait 10 minutes to boot up an allyesconfig kernel. So 
at least as long as my testconfig is concerned, 32-bit boxes and i386 
NUMA still has some place.

(and i'm not at all arguing it's a big thing - it's a minor thing. But i 
absolutely resist Andi's approach on conceptual grounds. It's backwards, 
for the reasons i outlined before. Had Andi's patch been in place the 
zone alignment bug had probably not been found - simple as that. 
Reducing choice artificially is the kind of thing that decreases the 
kernel's quality. Improving the quality of the kernel starts with making 
sure everyone understands how to achieve it - and Andi is one of the 
largest and most important contributors so i'd really like to make sure 
he understands my point :-)

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-15 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-15  7:56 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 10:09 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Eric Dumazet
2006-05-15 11:03   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 11:42     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Pekka Enberg
2006-05-15 13:28     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Eric Dumazet
2006-05-15 13:12 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Reuben Farrelly
2006-05-15 22:09   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Neil Brown
2006-05-15 14:08 ` [PATCH] x86 NUMA panic compile error Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-15 17:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:01     ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:08     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:08       ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-15 18:24         ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:24           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:45           ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-15 18:13       ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:34         ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:37           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:49             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 19:05             ` Dave Hansen
2006-05-15 19:11               ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 19:38                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-16  7:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-16  9:22                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:39                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 19:47                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:59                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 20:02                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 23:06                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-05-17  0:39                   ` Dave Jones
2006-05-17  1:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-05-15 18:43           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-05-15 18:28       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:52         ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:56           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 19:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 16:40 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 17:04   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 17:30     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Takashi Iwai
2006-05-15 17:56       ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Takashi Iwai
2006-05-15 18:11         ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-16  9:04           ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Takashi Iwai
2006-05-15 18:50         ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 16:49 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Alexey Dobriyan
2006-05-15 17:01   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:01     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Alexey Dobriyan
2006-05-15 19:29     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michael Halcrow
2006-05-15 17:48 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 18:00   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:05 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jesper Juhl
2006-05-15 18:37 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 18:53   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 19:10     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 19:26       ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 20:17         ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-16  8:39           ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 12:55             ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 14:48               ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 15:18                 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-16 15:23                 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 16:08                   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Greg KH
2006-05-16 16:27                     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-16 16:49                       ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Greg KH
2006-05-15 19:28 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Ingo Molnar
     [not found] ` <6bffcb0e0605151003x5d3518b9o70dae3b3349c4f9f@mail.gmail.com>
2006-05-15 22:24   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 10:25 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: no help text for MTD_NAND_CS553 Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:13   ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 11:46 ` [-mm patch] drivers/mtd/devices/docprobe.c: correct #if's Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:14   ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 11:48 ` [-mm patch] make dvb/b2c2/flexcop-fe-tuner.c:alps_tdee4_stv0297_tuner_set_params() static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:15 ` [-mm patch] drivers/media/video/pwc/: make code static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:32 ` [-mm patch] make variables static after klibc merge Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:37 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/mtd/nand/cs553x_nand.c:cs553x_init() static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 13:04   ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 12:39 ` [-mm patch] fs/nfs/: make code static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 13:24 ` [-mm patch] arch/i386/oprofile/: make functions static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 18:16   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-16 19:07   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-16 15:26 ` [-mm patch] fs/ocfs2/dlm/: cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-05-17  1:36   ` Mark Fasheh
2006-05-16 15:30 ` [-mm patch] drivers/net/s2io.c: make bus_speed[] static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 15:36   ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-16 16:42     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-05-24  5:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16 16:12 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: please drop add-raw-driver-kconfig-entry-for-s390.patch Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 16:37   ` Olaf Hering
2006-05-16 17:44     ` [2.6 patch] the overdue removal of the obsolete raw driver Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 17:50       ` Olaf Hering
2006-05-17 13:12   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: please drop add-raw-driver-kconfig-entry-for-s390.patch Alan Cox

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