From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: liontooth@cogweb.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: USB devices fail unnecessarily on unpowered hubs
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:59:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060601095913.06200806.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0606011050330.6784-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:58:43 -0400 (EDT)
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> As an alternative, we could allow an "over-budget window" of say 10%.
That, plus we should provide a suitable i-know-what-im-doing user override,
with the appropriate warnings, as well as a printk which directs users to
this option when we decided to disable their device.
> Configurations that exceed the power budget by less than that amount would
> still be accepted. I don't know whether this would be enough of a help,
> however. I've heard of devices that claim to require 200 mA, for
> instance. It just doesn't seem right to enable them when the upstream hub
> can only provide 100 mA.
The power supply spec is a conservative minimum, whereas the device spec is
a worst-case maximum. One would expect a lot of devices will work OK when
run "out of spec".
(Goes away and pats all his 240V plugpacks which are happily working off 110V).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-01 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-01 9:18 David Liontooth
2006-05-30 20:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-03 9:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-06-05 14:32 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2006-06-06 7:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-06-08 7:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-08 8:34 ` [PATCH] limit power budget on spitz Pavel Machek
2006-06-08 8:50 ` Richard Purdie
2006-06-08 9:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-08 9:22 ` Richard Purdie
2006-06-08 17:09 ` Russell King
2006-06-08 18:26 ` David Brownell
2006-06-08 20:06 ` Richard Purdie
2006-06-08 20:38 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2006-06-08 21:22 ` Richard Purdie
2006-06-08 21:40 ` David Brownell
2006-06-08 21:49 ` Richard Purdie
2006-06-08 23:44 ` David Brownell
2006-06-09 1:25 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-09 2:03 ` David Brownell
2006-06-09 2:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-01 10:01 ` USB devices fail unnecessarily on unpowered hubs Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 11:42 ` Daniel Drake
2006-06-01 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-01 15:09 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-01 15:23 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-06-01 21:39 ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2006-06-01 15:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-06-01 17:24 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-01 16:57 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-01 16:43 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Greg KH
2006-06-02 0:03 ` David Liontooth
2006-06-02 1:53 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2006-06-02 7:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-06-02 15:11 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-02 19:49 ` David Liontooth
2006-06-01 16:59 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-06-01 17:08 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-01 17:34 ` Mark Lord
2006-06-01 17:47 ` Alan Stern
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[not found] ` <6iX82-2UJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-01 23:35 ` Robert Hancock
2006-06-01 23:46 ` Randy.Dunlap
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[not found] ` <6iYQx-5Jc-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-01 23:37 ` Robert Hancock
2006-06-05 11:07 Lee Dowling
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2006-06-07 0:51 ` Robert Hancock
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