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From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
	jdow <jdow@earthlink.net>, Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	nick@linicks.net, Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>,
	marty fouts <mf.danger@gmail.com>,
	Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:45:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060613104557.GA13597@merlin.emma.line.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1150189506.11159.93.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, David Woodhouse wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 23:00 -0400, Horst von Brand wrote:
> > > Greylist those who have not subscribed.
> > 
> > That is not easy to do. 
> 
> It's fairly trivial with a decent MTA. I use all kinds of conditions to
> trigger greylisting -- HTML mail, 'Re:' in subject with no References:,
> lack of reverse DNS or CSA on the sending host, >=0.1 SA points, etc.
> Adding "is not subscribed to the mailing list they're trying to post to"
> should be trivial.

Given that list drivers are separate from the MTA (and that's good),
it's less trivial than simple looking at message headers or DNS info
that the MTA shuffles around anyways. The MTA doesn't need the
subscription list however, since "exploding" the subscriber list is a
separate problem handled by Majordomo, Mailman, Sympa, whatever.

-- 
Matthias Andree

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-13 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-10 22:27 Matti Aarnio
2006-06-10 23:06 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-11  0:16   ` Rik van Riel
2006-06-11  0:44     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-11 13:02     ` Theodore Tso
2006-06-11 13:55       ` Rik van Riel
2006-06-11 14:03         ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-12  8:47           ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 10:17             ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 10:35               ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 11:07               ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-11  2:24   ` marty fouts
2006-06-11  2:41     ` jdow
2006-06-11  2:58       ` David Schwartz
2006-06-11  5:17         ` jdow
2006-06-12  8:18           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12  8:23             ` jdow
2006-06-12  8:31               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12  9:47               ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 10:30                 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 10:33                   ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 17:37               ` Gerhard Mack
2006-06-12 18:14                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-12 18:46                   ` jdow
2006-06-12 19:16                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-12 21:51                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 21:12                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12  9:53             ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 10:01               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 11:14                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 10:58               ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 11:22                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 11:42             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-13 23:32               ` Scott Lockwood
2006-06-13 23:42                 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-14  0:02               ` Neil Brown
2006-06-14 10:20                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-16  3:53                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-12  8:27     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 20:25       ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-12 21:10         ` Nick Warne
2006-06-12 22:06           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-12 22:12             ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-12 23:03             ` jdow
2006-06-13  3:00               ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13  5:54                 ` jdow
2006-06-13  8:36                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13  9:58                   ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 13:28                   ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13 14:34                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13  9:05                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 10:45                   ` Matthias Andree [this message]
2006-06-13 12:24                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 12:49                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 13:10                         ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 15:19                         ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 15:57                           ` Auke Kok
2006-06-13 19:54                             ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 20:31                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-06-13 20:48                                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-15 17:05               ` Keith Owens
2006-06-15 23:14                 ` Wakko Warner
2006-06-13  0:11             ` Phil Oester
2006-06-13  0:26               ` David Miller
2006-06-13  4:18                 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-13 15:17               ` Joel Jaeggli
2006-06-12 21:43         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13  3:05           ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13  8:31             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 10:50               ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 13:15                 ` Justin Piszcz
2006-06-11  5:09   ` Neil Brown
2006-06-11  5:26     ` jdow
2006-06-11  6:12       ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-11 16:02 ` Folkert van Heusden
2006-06-11 17:54   ` Lee Revell
2006-06-11 18:54     ` David Miller
2006-06-12  9:09       ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 11:32       ` Nikita Danilov
2006-06-12 14:52       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-12 20:00         ` David Miller
2006-06-12 22:29           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-12 22:48             ` David Miller
2006-06-12 22:57               ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-13  3:54         ` VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) - Alternative Marc Perkel
2006-06-13  4:51           ` David Miller
2006-06-13 13:41         ` VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Athanasius
2006-06-11 17:31 ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-11 18:50 ` Florian Weimer
     [not found] ` <20060611072223.GA16150@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2006-06-12  8:32   ` Matti Aarnio
2006-06-12  8:40     ` Russell King
2006-06-12  9:57       ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 15:55         ` Russell King
2006-06-12 20:06       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2006-06-12 11:22     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 15:41     ` Simon Oosthoek
2006-06-12 22:55       ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 17:41       ` Matti Aarnio
2006-06-12  9:05 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 17:28   ` Matthew Frost
2006-06-13  0:12   ` David Woodhouse

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