From: Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
Patrick Caulfield <pcaulfie@redhat.com>,
Kevin Anderson <kanderso@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GFS2 and DLM
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:16:32 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060627181632.A1297906@wobbly.melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060627063339.GA27938@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 08:33:39AM +0200
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 08:33:39AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > * Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The code uses GFP_NOFAIL for slab allocator calls. It's been
> > > pointed out here numerous times that this can't work. Andrew, what
> > > about adding a check to slab.c to bail out if someone passes it?
> >
> > reiserfs, jbd and NTFS are all using GFP_NOFAIL ...
> >
> > i dont think this is a huge issue that should block merging.
>
> oh, and XFS has this little gem in its journalling code:
>
[snip misinterpreted code/flag]
> */
> buf = (xfs_caddr_t) kmem_zalloc(NBPP, KM_SLEEP);
> [...]
>
> where kmem_zalloc() may fail!!!
Not with the flags it was given.
> So XFS is apprarently hiding the "journalling allocations must not fail"
> problem by ... crashing? Wow! Most of the other journalling filesystems
> loop on the allocator: the honest ones do it via GFP_NOFAIL, others via
> open-coded infinite retry loops.
No, please look more closely before making such claims.
> sophisticated filesystem, which has many dynamic (and delayed) decisions
> that make the prediction of resource overhead difficult. That's the
> fundamental reason why basically all journalling filesystems either loop
> (or the really enterprise quality ones: crash ;) on allocation failure.
> other problems with the XFS code that are similar in nature to the ones
> you pointed out. (mostly useless wrappers around Linux functionality)
You've missed subtleties in those "useless wrappers", which are
preventing the problem you claim is there.
cheers.
--
Nathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-27 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-20 12:17 Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-20 12:32 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 12:47 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-20 14:04 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 15:40 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-20 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21 11:20 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-23 14:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-26 21:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 7:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-20 12:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-20 12:55 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-20 15:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 14:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-23 20:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 20:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-26 20:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-27 7:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 6:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 6:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-27 7:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 7:06 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-27 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 8:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-27 9:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 9:23 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-03 13:40 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-27 8:16 ` Nathan Scott [this message]
2006-06-27 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 8:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-06-27 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 8:42 ` Nathan Scott
2006-06-27 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 14:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-23 15:54 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-23 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-23 16:09 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-23 14:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-23 14:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-23 15:26 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-23 15:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-23 16:29 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-06-23 16:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-26 20:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-27 7:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-27 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
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