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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Subject: Re: Incorrect CPU process accounting using         CONFIG_HZ=100
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:29:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060629072915.GE27526@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44A31DE8.20100@bigpond.net.au>

Hi!

> >>>Wouldn't merging the two approaches be in the interest of conserving 
> >>>cpu resources, while at the same time reflecting an accurate view of 
> >>>cpu utilization?
> >>
> >>I think that this would be a worthwhile endeavour once/if 
> >>sched_clock() is fixed.  This is especially the case as CPUs get 
> >>faster as many tasks may run to completion in less than a tick.
> >
> >That may not be as simple as it seems. To properly account system v user 
> >time using the sched_clock we'd have to hook into arch dependant asm 
> >code to know when entering and exiting kernel context. That is far more 
> >invasive than the simple on/off runqueue timing we currently do for 
> >scheduling accounting.
> 
> Yes, it is a problem and we may have to do something approximate like 
> counting ticks for sys time and subtracting that from the total to get 
> user time when reporting the times to user space (only a bit more 
> complex to make sure we don't end up with negative times).

Yes, please.

> How is it intended to handle this problem in the tickless kernel?

Even our "tickless" kernels do tick while CPU is busy.
								Pavel
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-29  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-21 14:16 Al Boldi
2006-06-22  5:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-22 17:36   ` Al Boldi
2006-06-26 16:02     ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 12:32       ` Al Boldi
2006-06-27 13:02         ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-27 23:52           ` Peter Williams
2006-06-28 20:06             ` Al Boldi
2006-06-28 23:23               ` Peter Williams
2006-06-28 23:46                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-29  0:25                   ` Peter Williams
2006-06-29  1:10                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-29  7:29                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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