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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: arjan@infradead.org, mingo@elte.hu, zach.brown@oracle.com,
	openib-general@openib.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Convert idr's internal locking to _irqsave variant
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:54:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060713135446.5e2c6dd5.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adau05ltsso.fsf@cisco.com>

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:42:47 -0700
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com> wrote:

>  > Sigh.  It was always a mistake (of the kernel programming 101 type) to put
>  > any locking at all in the idr code.  At some stage we need to weed it all
>  > out and move it to callers.
>  > 
>  > Your fix is yet more fallout from that mistake.
> 
> Agreed.  Consider me on the hook to fix this up in a better way once
> my life is a little saner.  Maybe I'll try to cook something up on the
> plane ride to Ottawa.
> 

I suspect it'll get really ugly.  It's a container library which needs to
allocate memory when items are added, like the radix-tree.  Either it needs
to assume GFP_ATOMIC, which is bad and can easily fail or it does weird
things like radix_tree_preload().

The basic problem is:

	idr_pre_get(GFP_KERNEL);
	spin_lock(my_lock);
	idr_get_new(..);

which is racy, because some other CPU could have got in there and consumed
some of the pool which was precharged by idr_pre_get().

It's wildly improbable that it'll actually fail.  It requires all of:

a) that the race occur

b) that the racing thread consume an appreciable amount of the pool

c) that this thread also consume an appreciable amount (such that the
   total of both exceeds the pool size).

d) that a (needs to be added) GFP_ATOMIC attempt to replenish the pool
   inside idr_get_new() fails.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-13 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-11 20:10 ipoib lockdep warning Zach Brown
2006-07-11 21:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-07-11 21:40   ` Sean Hefty
2006-07-11 21:50     ` [openib-general] " Zach Brown
2006-07-11 22:54 ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-11 23:27   ` Zach Brown
2006-07-11 23:43     ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-11 23:53       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-12  0:06         ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-12  9:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-12 11:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-07-12 16:31           ` [openib-general] " Sean Hefty
2006-07-12 18:56           ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-13 15:55           ` [PATCH] IB/core: use correct gfp_mask in sa_query Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-07-12 19:06         ` [openib-general] ipoib lockdep warning Roland Dreier
2006-07-12 20:45         ` [PATCH] Convert idr's internal locking to _irqsave variant Roland Dreier
2006-07-12 21:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-13  1:30           ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-13 15:42             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-13 20:54               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-07-13 21:03                 ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-13 21:05                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-14  0:18                     ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-14  6:20                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-13 21:43                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-14  1:08                     ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-14  1:18                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-14  1:30                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-17 15:57                           ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-12  2:33 ` [openib-general] ipoib lockdep warning Roland Dreier
2006-07-12  6:49   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 19:01     ` Roland Dreier

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