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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, torvalds@osdl.org, davej@redhat.com,
	mingo@elte.hu, 76306.1226@compuserve.com, ashok.raj@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Reorganize the cpufreq cpu hotplug locking to not be totally bizare
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:33:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060726143357.2f0787e7.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1153947786.3381.58.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:03:06 +0200
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> I'm really starting to feel that the hotplug lock would have been better
> of being a refcount (with a waitqueue for zero) than a lock. While
> "refcount+waitqueue" sort of IS a lock, the semantics make more sense
> imo...

The mistake in the above paragraph is its use of the term "the hotplug
lock".

Think.  We don't want to lock CPUs.  We don't want to block plug/unplug
events.

What we _do_ want is for subsystems to be able to guarantee the stability
of their per-cpu data and the coherency of that data with cpu_online_map
and cpu_present_map.

We should delete lock_cpu_hotplug() and start again.  Perhaps we can do
that post-2.6.18 if we can cobble the current stuff into some semi-working
state.  But I doubt if it's very important really - we have heaps of code
in there which is already racy wrt hotplug and adding a little more isn't
likely to hurt.

I count 187 instances of for_each_online_cpu(), and most of them are racy. 
There's just no way we can fix all these with lock_cpu_hotplug().  It
simply doesn't have a future.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-26 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-25  0:21 remove cpu hotplug bustification in cpufreq Chuck Ebbert
2006-07-25  0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-25 15:06   ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-25 18:54   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-25 19:30     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 20:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 13:40         ` [patch] Reorganize the cpufreq cpu hotplug locking to not be totally bizare Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 15:51           ` Dave Jones
2006-07-26 17:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 19:42               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 20:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 20:58                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:29                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 21:38                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-27  1:40                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-27 17:38                         ` Ashok Raj
2006-07-29 13:45                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-26 21:15                   ` Ashok Raj
2006-07-27 19:29                     ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-07-28 13:50                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-28 17:09                         ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-07-26 20:42                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:03                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 21:21                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:33                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-26 21:33                     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-07-26 22:35                       ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-07-26 22:44                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 20:46     ` remove cpu hotplug bustification in cpufreq Dave Jones
2006-07-25 20:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 17:12       ` Russell King
2006-07-26 17:53         ` Dave Jones

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