From: Oliver Endriss <o.endriss@gmx.de>
To: v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Trent Piepho <xyzzy@speakeasy.org>,
Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Jack Lo <jlo@vmware.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] Options depending on STANDALONE
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:18:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608061319.00085@orion.escape-edv.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060805105122.GT25692@stusta.de>
Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:40:25PM -0700, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:56:17PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > > You're describing PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD. The text Zach quoted is from
> > > > STANDALONE, which is something else completely. That allows us to not
> > > > build drivers that pull in things from /etc and the like during compile.
> > > > (Whoever thought that was a good idea?)
> > >
> > > Is DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE really still required?
> > > ALL other drivers work without such an option.
> >
> > The other DVB drivers that need firmware load it when the device is opened
> > or used (ie. a channel is tuned). At least for the ones I'm familiar
> > with. If they are compiled directly into the kernel, they can still use
> > FW_LOADER since the loading won't happen until utill well after booting is
> > done.
> >
> > For AV7110, it looks like the firmware loading is done when the driver is
> > first initialized. If AV7110 is compiled into the kernel, FW_LOADER can
> > not be used. The filesystem with the firmware won't be mounted yet.
> >
> > So AV7110 has an option to compile a firmware file into the driver.
>
> But is there a technical reason why this has to be done this way?
>
> This is the onle (non-OSS) driver doing it this way, and Zach has a
> point that this is legally questionable.
This option _is_ useful because it allows allows a user to build an
av7110 driver without hotplug etc. I NAK any attempt to remove it.
Sorry, a kernel option cannot cause a legal issue. Only the user does.
For non-distribution kernels there is no difference whether firmware is
loaded at run-time or compiled-in.
Obviously, there might be a difference for distribution kernels if you
are not allowed to distribute the firmware (imho not a problem in this
case, but IANAL). Simple solution: Do not enable the option.
I have no problem if you want to remove STANDALONE: Simply remove the
dependency to STANDALONE, but keep DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE with default 'n'.
CU
Oliver
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-06 11:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-03 10:14 A proposal - binary Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 11:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-03 12:16 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-03 15:17 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-03 16:05 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-03 17:57 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 18:29 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-03 18:47 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 18:08 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 19:03 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 19:36 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:56 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 19:59 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 20:25 ` Options depending on STANDALONE Adrian Bunk
2006-08-03 20:28 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 20:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 23:40 ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Trent Piepho
2006-08-05 10:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-06 11:18 ` Oliver Endriss [this message]
2006-08-13 16:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-14 21:15 ` Trent Piepho
2006-08-27 21:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-03 19:48 ` A proposal - binary linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-04 6:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-03 21:03 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 13:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 20:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-08-03 21:12 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 21:27 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-03 18:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05 10:45 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-06 22:45 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-06 22:59 ` Greg KH
2006-08-08 0:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-08 0:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-09 7:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-03 19:06 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:26 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 20:01 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 21:41 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 22:33 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 22:30 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 22:49 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 22:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 23:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 23:40 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 10:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 14:34 ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-05 0:06 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-04 8:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04 2:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 4:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 5:04 ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04 5:53 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 7:04 ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04 7:21 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 8:29 ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04 16:57 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 18:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 18:46 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04 19:06 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 19:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-04 19:45 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 20:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 20:31 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 21:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 21:40 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2006-08-04 22:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-04 22:45 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 19:45 ` Jeff Dike
2006-08-04 19:49 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 21:46 ` Jeff Dike
2006-08-04 22:40 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 5:40 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 6:28 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04 7:01 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 7:19 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04 7:37 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 18:34 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 20:41 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 20:52 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 21:26 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-05 1:14 ` James Bottomley
2006-08-05 5:37 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05 10:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 11:50 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 22:01 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 22:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:43 ` David Lang
2006-08-05 10:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 11:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-05 1:30 ` James Bottomley
2006-08-05 4:33 ` Zachary Amsden
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