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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Madore <david.madore@ens.fr>
Cc: Linux Kernel mailing-list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: patch to make Linux capabilities into something useful (v 0.3.1)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:06:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060910130623.GB4206@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060910104105.GB5865@clipper.ens.fr>

Hi!

> > > How about another gid, then?  Should we reset all caps on sgid exec?
> > 
> > Yes. Any setuid/setgid exec is a security barrier, and weird (or new)
> > semantics may not cross that barrier.
> 
> Right, so what I was saying was: if you reset all regular caps on sgid
> exec, anyone can trivially reset all regular caps by creating a sgid
> program (users are always members of a great many groups so "finding
> another gid to hijack" is trivial).  So CAP_REG_SXID needs to be off
> all the time, so we lose again.
> 
> But I'll make this a securebit ("unsanitized sxid"), with the behavior
> you advertise as default (0).

I'm not sure if fundamental security semantics should be optional, but
it is certainly better than before.

> > > Ultimately a compromise is to be reached between security and
> > > flexibility...  The problem is, I don't know who should make the
> > > decision.
> > 
> > Go for security here. (Normally, consensus on the list is needed for
> > merging the patch).
> 
> I am now completely convinced the patch will never be merged. :-(
> Linux will have useless caps forever...

Well, merging the patches is not that hard.

tytso actually shown a clever way: add per-filesystem 'default
capability masks'. That should be fairly easy to merge, and
automatically back-compatible.

(And it would get tou semantics you wanted in inheritance area,
right?)
							Pavel
-- 
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-10 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-05 21:26 David Madore
2006-09-06  0:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-06 10:06   ` David Madore
2006-09-06 13:26     ` David Madore
2006-09-07  0:11       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-07  0:32         ` David Madore
2006-09-07  1:01           ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-07  1:29             ` David Wagner
2006-09-07 16:00               ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-07 18:33                 ` David Wagner
2006-09-07 17:34             ` David Madore
2006-09-07 19:38               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-07 23:00                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08  1:22                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-08 10:45                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 16:08                       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-08 14:39                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 19:10                       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-07 22:54               ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08  4:10                 ` David Madore
2006-09-08 10:52                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 22:51                     ` David Madore
2006-09-09  0:11                       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-09 11:59                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09 11:40                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 10:41                         ` David Madore
2006-09-10 13:06                           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-10 14:25                             ` capability inheritance (was: Re: patch to make Linux capabilities into something useful (v 0.3.1)) David Madore
2006-09-10 22:42                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 16:00                               ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-11 17:39                                 ` David Madore
2006-09-09  0:59                   ` patch to make Linux capabilities into something useful (v 0.3.1) David Wagner
2006-09-09 12:49                     ` David Madore
2006-09-09 23:18       ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-10 10:13         ` David Madore
2006-09-10 12:36         ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 23:24           ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-11  8:09             ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-06 18:25 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-06 22:27   ` David Madore
2006-09-07  0:04     ` David Madore
2006-09-07 23:06       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-08  4:16         ` David Madore
2006-09-07  6:43     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-07 23:02     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-08  1:08       ` David Madore
2006-09-08  1:31         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-08 21:45           ` David Madore
2006-09-07 18:21 ` James Antill
2006-09-07 18:33   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-07 20:05     ` James Antill
2006-09-08  4:00   ` David Madore

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