From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Madore <david.madore@ens.fr>
Cc: Linux Kernel mailing-list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: patch to make Linux capabilities into something useful (v 0.3.1)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:06:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060910130623.GB4206@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060910104105.GB5865@clipper.ens.fr>
Hi!
> > > How about another gid, then? Should we reset all caps on sgid exec?
> >
> > Yes. Any setuid/setgid exec is a security barrier, and weird (or new)
> > semantics may not cross that barrier.
>
> Right, so what I was saying was: if you reset all regular caps on sgid
> exec, anyone can trivially reset all regular caps by creating a sgid
> program (users are always members of a great many groups so "finding
> another gid to hijack" is trivial). So CAP_REG_SXID needs to be off
> all the time, so we lose again.
>
> But I'll make this a securebit ("unsanitized sxid"), with the behavior
> you advertise as default (0).
I'm not sure if fundamental security semantics should be optional, but
it is certainly better than before.
> > > Ultimately a compromise is to be reached between security and
> > > flexibility... The problem is, I don't know who should make the
> > > decision.
> >
> > Go for security here. (Normally, consensus on the list is needed for
> > merging the patch).
>
> I am now completely convinced the patch will never be merged. :-(
> Linux will have useless caps forever...
Well, merging the patches is not that hard.
tytso actually shown a clever way: add per-filesystem 'default
capability masks'. That should be fairly easy to merge, and
automatically back-compatible.
(And it would get tou semantics you wanted in inheritance area,
right?)
Pavel
--
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-10 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-05 21:26 David Madore
2006-09-06 0:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-06 10:06 ` David Madore
2006-09-06 13:26 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 0:11 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-07 0:32 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 1:01 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-07 1:29 ` David Wagner
2006-09-07 16:00 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-07 18:33 ` David Wagner
2006-09-07 17:34 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 19:38 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-07 23:00 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 1:22 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-08 10:45 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 16:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-08 14:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 19:10 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-07 22:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 4:10 ` David Madore
2006-09-08 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-08 22:51 ` David Madore
2006-09-09 0:11 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-09 11:59 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09 11:40 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 10:41 ` David Madore
2006-09-10 13:06 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-10 14:25 ` capability inheritance (was: Re: patch to make Linux capabilities into something useful (v 0.3.1)) David Madore
2006-09-10 22:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 16:00 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-11 17:39 ` David Madore
2006-09-09 0:59 ` patch to make Linux capabilities into something useful (v 0.3.1) David Wagner
2006-09-09 12:49 ` David Madore
2006-09-09 23:18 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-10 10:13 ` David Madore
2006-09-10 12:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 23:24 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-11 8:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-06 18:25 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-06 22:27 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 0:04 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 23:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-08 4:16 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 6:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-07 23:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-08 1:08 ` David Madore
2006-09-08 1:31 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-09-08 21:45 ` David Madore
2006-09-07 18:21 ` James Antill
2006-09-07 18:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-07 20:05 ` James Antill
2006-09-08 4:00 ` David Madore
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