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From: Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
	Alessandro Suardi <alessandro.suardi@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	jt@hpl.hp.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>,
	hostap@shmoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ipw3945-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:52:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061003165214.GD17252@bougret.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061003133845.GG2930@thunk.org>

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> 
> John, has the wireless community considered creating a new interface
> which *is* carefully designed, and supporting both the new and the
> legacy interface for 2-3 years until all of the mainstream
> distributions have had a chance to cycle?  It would be hard, I know,
> but would it be harder than some of the alternatives, and would it be
> worth it?

	No API is guaranteed to be stable forever. And I think the
overall track record of stability for the Wireless Extensions is
pretty good.
	On top of that, the tools themselves *WARNS YOU* when there is
an API incompatibility, giving the user the change to correct the
issue. There is not many API having such feature...

	In my mind, the whole point of the GIT and RC process is to
test changes before setting them in stone, so that we have the time to
correct our mistakes. I definitely think the process is working
properly.
	If you think I jumped the gun, consider that both FC and
Mandriva which have the right userspace bits are in RC phase
(FC6-test3 and 2007-rc2), and therefore will ship about the same time
2.6.19 hits final. And Debian with the right userspace bits is
supposed to be released in december (no comment).

> Regards,
> 
> 						- Ted

	Have fun...

	Jean

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-03 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-02  8:59 Norbert Preining
2006-10-02  9:21 ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-02 11:32   ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 12:21     ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-02 12:46       ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 16:50         ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 16:58           ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 18:15             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 18:55               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:22                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 19:59                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:34                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-02 19:39                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:49                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-02 19:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-02 21:00                   ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 21:26                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-02 21:58                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05 10:39                         ` Keith Owens
2006-10-02 22:08                       ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-03 12:12                         ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 12:49                           ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 13:38                             ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 14:12                               ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 14:30                                 ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 16:00                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 17:03                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 16:52                               ` Jean Tourrilhes [this message]
2006-10-03 17:23                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:38                                 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:40                                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 22:30                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 22:51                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 12:53                           ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-03 16:41                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-10  6:29                       ` Reinhard Tartler
2006-10-02 19:41               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 20:57                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 21:04                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 16:44   ` Lee Revell
2006-10-03 12:38     ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 12:59       ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 15:54       ` Lee Revell
2006-10-03 16:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 18:05           ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 18:19             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 18:38               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 18:59                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 19:48                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 19:52                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 21:40                   ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 21:48                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 22:27                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 22:41                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04  2:10                         ` Jouni Malinen
2006-10-03 21:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 22:16                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 22:30                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 18:10                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 18:32                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 18:42                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 18:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 18:59                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 19:12                             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 19:21                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 19:52                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 20:12                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 20:19                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 20:47                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 22:26                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05  0:26                                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05  2:19                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 15:20                                         ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-05 16:28                                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-06 21:31                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 21:08                                 ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04 23:29                             ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-05  0:30                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05  1:55                               ` LEAP (was: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing) Jouni Malinen
2006-10-03 23:14                     ` [ipw3945-devel] wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing mabbas
2006-10-03 23:16                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 23:31                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
     [not found]                         ` <20061003202754.ce69f03a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-04  0:27                           ` Sean
2006-10-04  0:30                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
     [not found]                             ` <20061003203646.60d9589a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-04  0:36                               ` Sean
2006-10-04 12:36                               ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04  7:49                       ` Johannes Berg
2006-10-05 16:35                         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05 16:43                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 17:42                             ` Erik Andersen
2006-10-05 17:45                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 18:36                               ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04  7:50                     ` Johannes Berg
2006-10-03 19:08                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-03 19:49                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04  2:21                     ` Jouni Malinen
2006-10-04  7:33                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 12:39                         ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 18:31             ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-03 18:40               ` Jean Tourrilhes

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