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From: Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Alessandro Suardi <alessandro.suardi@gmail.com>,
	Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net
Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:47:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061004204718.GA4599@bougret.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610041311420.3952@g5.osdl.org>

On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:12:17PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
> > 
> > 	Yes, this is precisely what we have been doing, the two APIs
> > have been working at the same time for more than 6 months.
> 
> In the kernel for any particular driver?
> 
> Or just in user-land?
> 
> There's a big difference.

	Both actually.
	I've slightly simplified the situation, because you may not
care for all the details, but if you want to know the gory details...
	It's all started with some kernel drivers changing the way
they handle ESSID. That was last January. So, in the kernel, you had
half the drivers doing the old way (NUL terminated), and half doing
the new way (not NUL terminated).
	I immediately asked to revert to the old way. All the Wireless
people were against me, and this mish-mash of API was kept (it was
public on netdev). At this point, nobody cared that userspace API was
broken and I was left cleaning up the mess.
	Of course, some part of the Wireless Tools did broke on the
new API (I had bug reports), so I had to push new version of Wireless
Tools. And I took this opportunity to finish moving over the API to
the new way.

	Sometime breaking userspace APIs is perfectly OK, while
sometimes it's not. You just have to make sure that Linus does not
hear about it, I guess ;-)

> 			Linus

	Have fun...

	Jean

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-04 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-02  8:59 Norbert Preining
2006-10-02  9:21 ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-02 11:32   ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 12:21     ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-02 12:46       ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 16:50         ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 16:58           ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 18:15             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 18:55               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:22                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 19:59                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:34                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-02 19:39                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:49                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-02 19:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-02 21:00                   ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 21:26                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-02 21:58                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05 10:39                         ` Keith Owens
2006-10-02 22:08                       ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-03 12:12                         ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 12:49                           ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 13:38                             ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 14:12                               ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 14:30                                 ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 16:00                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 17:03                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 16:52                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:23                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:38                                 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:40                                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 22:30                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 22:51                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 12:53                           ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-03 16:41                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-10  6:29                       ` Reinhard Tartler
2006-10-02 19:41               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 20:57                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 21:04                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 16:44   ` Lee Revell
2006-10-03 12:38     ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 12:59       ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 15:54       ` Lee Revell
2006-10-03 16:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 18:05           ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 18:19             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 18:38               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 18:59                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 19:48                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 19:52                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 21:40                   ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 21:48                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 22:27                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 22:41                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04  2:10                         ` Jouni Malinen
2006-10-03 21:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 22:16                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 22:30                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 18:10                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 18:32                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 18:42                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 18:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 18:59                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 19:12                             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 19:21                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 19:52                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 20:12                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 20:19                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 20:47                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes [this message]
2006-10-04 22:26                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05  0:26                                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05  2:19                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 15:20                                         ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-05 16:28                                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-06 21:31                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 21:08                                 ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04 23:29                             ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-05  0:30                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05  1:55                               ` LEAP (was: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing) Jouni Malinen
2006-10-03 23:14                     ` [ipw3945-devel] wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing mabbas
2006-10-03 23:16                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 23:31                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
     [not found]                         ` <20061003202754.ce69f03a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-04  0:27                           ` Sean
2006-10-04  0:30                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
     [not found]                             ` <20061003203646.60d9589a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-04  0:36                               ` Sean
2006-10-04 12:36                               ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04  7:49                       ` Johannes Berg
2006-10-05 16:35                         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05 16:43                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 17:42                             ` Erik Andersen
2006-10-05 17:45                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 18:36                               ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04  7:50                     ` Johannes Berg
2006-10-03 19:08                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-03 19:49                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04  2:21                     ` Jouni Malinen
2006-10-04  7:33                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 12:39                         ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 18:31             ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-03 18:40               ` Jean Tourrilhes

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