From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:23:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610221723.48646.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <453B2DDB.3010303@qumranet.com>
On Sunday 22 October 2006 10:37, Avi Kivity wrote:
> I like this. Since we plan to support multiple vcpus per vm, the fs
> structure might look like:
>
> /kvm/my_vm
> |
> +----memory # mkdir to create memory slot.
Note that the way spufs does it, every directory is a reference-counted
object. Currently that includes single contexts and groups of
contexts that are supposed to be scheduled simultaneously.
The trick is that we use the special 'spu_create' syscall to
add a new object, while naming it, and return an open file
descriptor to it. When that file descriptor gets closed, the
object gets garbage-collected automatically.
This way you can simply kill a task, which also cleans up
all the special objects it allocated.
We ended up adding a lot more file than we initially planned,
but the interface is really handy, especially if you want to
create some procps-like tools for it.
> | | # how to set size and offset?
> | |
> | +---0 # guest physical memory slot
> | |
> | +-- dirty_bitmap # read to get and atomically reset
> | # the changed pages log
Have you thought about simply defining your guest to be a section
of the processes virtual address space? That way you could use
an anonymous mapping in the host as your guest address space, or
even use a file backed mapping in order to make the state persistant
over multiple runs. Or you could map the guest kernel into the
guest real address space with a private mapping and share the
text segment over multiple guests to save L2 and RAM.
> |
> |
> +----cpu # mkdir/rmdir to create/remove vcpu
> |
I'd recommend not allowing mkdir or similar operations, although
it's not that far off. One option would be to let the user specify
the number of CPUs at kvm_create() time, another option might
be to allow kvm_create with a special flag or yet another syscall
to create the vcpu objects.
> +----0
> | |
> | +--- irq # write to inject an irq
> | |
> | +--- regs # read/write to get/set registers
> | |
> | +--- debugger # write to set breakpoints/singlestep mode
> |
> +----1
> [...]
>
> It's certainly a lot more code though, and requires new syscalls. Since
> this is a little esoteric does it warrant new syscalls?
We've gone through a number of iterations on the spufs design regarding this,
and in the end decided that the garbage-collecting property of spu_create
was superior to any other option, and adding the spu_run syscall was then
the logical step. BTW, one inspiration for spu_run came from sys_vm86, which
as you are probably aware of is already doing a lot of what you do, just
not for protected mode guests.
Arnd <><
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-22 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-19 13:45 Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 14:30 ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 14:43 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 23:26 ` Greg KH
2006-10-19 14:50 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 14:51 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 15:25 ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:10 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 8:10 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 18:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:04 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:26 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 22:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20 7:42 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 20:10 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 20:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20 7:16 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 15:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 8:19 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22 8:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: Intel virtual mode extensions definitions Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-19 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20 7:17 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22 8:17 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: kvm data structures Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: mmu virtualization Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20 7:24 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: x86 emulator Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: plumbing Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 16:09 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20 7:37 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 17:31 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-10-19 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-19 18:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:30 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-21 16:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2006-10-22 16:18 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 16:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:01 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-22 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:41 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:55 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 22:26 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 22:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-22 20:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 20:45 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23 0:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-25 16:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-22 19:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 22:28 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 0:27 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23 0:39 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 0:51 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-22 17:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 17:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 19:56 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23 7:42 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-24 21:38 ` kvm_create() (was Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine) Andy Isaacson
2006-10-19 18:55 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Anthony Liguori
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