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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:01:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <453BA3E9.4050907@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610221851.06530.arnd@arndb.de>

Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> I don't think it's that different. The Cell SPU scheduler is also
> implemented in kernel space. Every application using an SPU program
> has its own contexts in spufs and doesn't look at the others.
>
>   

Okay, I've misunderstood you before.


> While we don't have it yet, we're thinking about adding a sputop
> or something similar that shows the utilization of spus. You don't
> need that one, since get exactly that with the regular top, but you
> might want to have a tool that prints statistics about how often
> your guests drop out of the virtualisation mode, or the number
> of interrupts delivered to them.
>
>   

We have a debugfs interface and a kvm_stat script which shows exactly 
that (including a breakdown of the reasons for the exit).

>>> Have you thought about simply defining your guest to be a section
>>> of the processes virtual address space? That way you could use
>>> an anonymous mapping in the host as your guest address space, or
>>> even use a file backed mapping in order to make the state persistant
>>> over multiple runs. Or you could map the guest kernel into the
>>> guest real address space with a private mapping and share the
>>> text segment over multiple guests to save L2 and RAM.
>>>  
>>>       
>> I've thought of it but it can't work on i386 because guest physical
>> address space is larger than virtual address space on i386.  So we
>> mmap("/dev/kvm") with file offsets corresponding to guest physical
>> addresses.
>>
>> I still like that idea, since it allows using hugetlbfs and allowing
>> swapping.  Perhaps we'll just accept the limitation that guests on i386
>> are limited.
>>     
>
> What is the point of 32 bit hosts anyway? Isn't this only available
> on x86_64 type CPUs in the first place?
>   

No, 32-bit hosts are fully supported (except a 32-bit host can't run a 
32-bit guest).

Admittedly, virtualization is a memory-intensive operation, so a 64-bit 
host will usually be used.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-22 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-19 13:45 Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 14:30   ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 14:43     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 23:26       ` Greg KH
2006-10-19 14:50     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 14:51       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 15:25         ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 18:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:10         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20  7:36             ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:33               ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22  8:10                 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:36         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 18:46   ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:04     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:09       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:26         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:31           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 22:15             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20  7:42             ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 20:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20  7:16     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 15:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22  8:19         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22  8:14     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: Intel virtual mode extensions definitions Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:19   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-19 21:54     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20  7:17     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22  8:17     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: kvm data structures Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: mmu virtualization Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:26   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20  7:24     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: x86 emulator Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: plumbing Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 16:09   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:14       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20  7:37           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 17:31 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-10-19 18:00   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:12     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-19 18:14       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:30         ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-21 16:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22  8:37       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 15:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 16:18           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 16:51             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:01               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-10-22 17:06                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:41                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:47                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-22 18:00                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:41                       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:55                           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 22:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 22:29                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-22 20:01                   ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 20:45                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23  0:29                   ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-25 16:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-22 19:59               ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 22:28                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  0:27                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23  0:39                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  0:51                       ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-22 17:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 17:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 19:56         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23  7:42           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-24 21:38       ` kvm_create() (was Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine) Andy Isaacson
2006-10-19 18:55   ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Anthony Liguori

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