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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: Andy Fleming <afleming@freescale.com>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Ben Collins <ben.collins@ubuntu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Export current_is_keventd() for libphy
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:57:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061205135753.9c3844f8.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaac22c9cu.fsf@cisco.com>

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:37:37 -0800
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com> wrote:

>  > a) Ban the calling of flush_scheduled_work() from under rtnl_lock(). 
>  >    Sounds hard.
> 
> Unfortunate if this is happening a lot.  It seems like the most
> sensible fix -- flush_scheduled_work() is in effect calling into
> an unknown and changeable in the future set of functions (since it
> waits for them to finish), and it seems error-prone to hold a lock
> across such a call.

yes, I agree.  It's really bad to be calling flush_scheduled_work() with
any locks held at all.  Fragile, hard-to-maintain, source of
once-in-a-blue-moon failures, etc.  I guess lockdep will help.

But running flush_scheduled_work() from within dev_close() is a very
sensible thing to do, and dev_close is called under rtnl_lock().
davem is -> thattaway ;)


>  >    This will almost work, as long as it's done in workqueue.c with
>  >    appropriate locking.  The bug occurs when some other CPU is running
>  >    phy_change() right now - we'll end up freeing data which that CPU is
>  >    presently playing with.
>  > 
>  >    But perhaps we can take care of this within workqueue.c.  We need a
>  >    cancel function which will cancel the work and, if its callback is
>  >    presently executing it will block until that execution has completed.
> 
> I may be misunderstanding you, but this seems to deadlock in exactly
> the same way: if someone calls this cancel routine holding rtnl_lock,
> and the work function that will also take rtnl_lock has just started,
> it will get stuck when the work function tries to take rtnl_lock.

Ah.  The point is that the phy code doesn't want to flush _all_ pending
callbacks.  It only wants to flush its own one.  And its own one doesn't
take rtnl_lock().

IOW, the phy code has no interest in running some random other subsystem's
callback - it just wants to run its own.  Hence no deadlock.

Maybe the lesson here is that flush_scheduled_work() is a bad function.
It should really be flush_this_work(struct work_struct *w).  That is in
fact what approximately 100% of the flush_scheduled_work() callers actually
want to do.

hmm.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-05 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-03  5:50 Ben Collins
2006-12-03  9:16 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 19:17   ` Steve Fox
2006-12-05 18:05     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-05 17:48   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-05 18:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-05 19:31       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 18:57     ` Andy Fleming
2006-12-06 12:31       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-05 20:39     ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 20:59       ` Andy Fleming
2006-12-05 21:26         ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 21:37           ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-05 21:57             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-12-05 23:49               ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-05 23:52               ` Roland Dreier
2006-12-06 15:25               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-06 15:57                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-06 17:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07  1:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07  6:42                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07  7:49                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 10:29                         ` David Howells
2006-12-07 10:42                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 17:05                             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-07 17:57                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 18:17                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-08 16:52                                 ` [PATCH] group xtime, xtime_lock, wall_to_monotonic, avenrun, calc_load_count fields together in ktimed Eric Dumazet
2006-12-09  5:46                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-09  6:07                                     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-11 20:44                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2006-12-11 22:00                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-13 21:26                                   ` [PATCH] Introduce time_data, a new structure to hold jiffies, xtime, xtime_lock, wall_to_monotonic, calc_load_count and avenrun Eric Dumazet
2006-12-15  5:24                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-15 11:21                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-12-15 16:21                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2006-12-07 18:08                               ` [PATCH] Export current_is_keventd() for libphy Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-07 18:59                               ` Andy Fleming
2006-12-07 16:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 17:52                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 18:01                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 18:16                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 18:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 15:28                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-06 17:43                   ` David Howells
2006-12-06 17:50                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-06 18:07                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 17:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 17:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 18:33                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 18:37                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 18:43                         ` David Howells
2006-12-06 19:02                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-06 18:02                     ` David Howells

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