From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Gautham shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 22:01:40 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070108163140.GC31263@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070108155638.GA156@tv-sign.ru>
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 06:56:38PM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Spotted atleast these problems:
> >
> > 1. run_workqueue()->work.func()->flush_work()->mutex_lock(workqueue_mutex)
> > deadlocks if we are blocked in cleanup_workqueue_thread()->kthread_stop()
> > for the same worker thread to exit.
> >
> > Looks possible in practice to me.
>
> Yes, this is the same (old) problem as we have/had with flush_workqueue().
> We can convert flush_work() to use preempt_disable (this is not straightforward,
> but easy), or forbid to call flush_work() from work.func().
I think I noticed other problems of avoiding workqueue_mutex() in
flush_work() ..don't recall the exact problem.
> > 2.
> >
> > CPU_DEAD->cleanup_workqueue_thread->(cwq->thread = NULL)->kthread_stop() ..
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > |___ Problematic
>
> Hmm... This should not be possible? cwq->thread != NULL on CPU_DEAD event.
sure, cwq->thread != NULL at CPU_DEAD event. However
cleanup_workqueue_thread() will set it to NULL and block in
kthread_stop(), waiting for the kthread to finish run_workqueue and
exit. If one of the work functions being run by run_workqueue() calls
flush_workqueue()->flush_cpu_workqueue() now, flush_cpu_workqueue() can fail to
recognize that "keventd is trying to flush its own queue" which can
cause deadlocks.
> > Now while we are blocked here, if a work->func() calls
> > flush_workqueue->flush_cpu_workqueue, we clearly cant identify that event
> > thread is trying to flush its own queue (cwq->thread == current test
> > fails) and hence we will deadlock.
>
> Could you clarify? I believe cwq->thread == current test always works, we never
> "substitute" cwq->thread.
The test fails in the window described above.
> > A lock_cpu_hotplug(), or any other ability to block concurrent hotplug
> > operations from happening, in run_workqueue would have avoided both the above
> > races.
>
> I still don't think this is a good idea. We also need
> is_cpu_down_waits_for_lock_cpu_hotplug()
>
> helper, otherwise we have a deadlock if work->func() sleeps and re-queues itself.
Can you elaborate this a bit?
> > Alternatively, for the second race, I guess we can avoid setting
> > cwq->thread = NULL in cleanup_workqueue_thread() till the thread has exited,
>
> Yes, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=116818097927685, I believe
> we can do this later. This way workqueue will have almost zero interaction
> with cpu-hotplug, and cpu UP/DOWN event won't be delayed by sleeping work.func().
> take_over_work() can go away, this also allows us to simplify things.
I agree it minimizes the interactions. Maybe worth attempting. However I
suspect it may not be as simple as it appears :)
--
Regards,
vatsa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-08 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-17 22:34 [PATCH, RFC] reimplement flush_workqueue() Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-18 3:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-19 0:27 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-19 0:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-19 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 11:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 14:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 15:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 16:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 16:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 17:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 18:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 18:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-05 9:03 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 14:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:24 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 8:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 12:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:11 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 15:10 ` [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 16:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 16:38 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 17:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 10:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 12:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 14:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 14:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 16:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:01 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 17:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 16:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-06 19:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-07 11:00 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 19:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-07 21:01 ` [PATCH] flush_cpu_workqueue: don't flush an empty ->worklist Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 5:04 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 5:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 6:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-09 9:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-09 9:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 10:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 10:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 15:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-09 15:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 16:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-09 16:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-14 23:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 4:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-15 12:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 13:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 16:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-15 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-16 5:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-16 13:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 6:17 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-17 15:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 16:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-17 17:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 16:25 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 21:51 ` [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 15:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-08 15:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 16:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2007-01-08 17:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 18:37 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2007-01-09 1:11 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 4:39 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 14:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 15:37 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 12:02 ` [PATCH, RFC] reimplement flush_workqueue() Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 14:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
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