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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Gautham shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] flush_cpu_workqueue: don't flush an empty ->worklist
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:27:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070116132725.GA81@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070116052606.GA995@in.ibm.com>

On 01/16, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 07:55:16PM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > As I said already __create_workqueue() needs a fix, schedule_on_each_cpu()
> > is already broken, and should be fixed as well.
> 
> __create_workqueue() creates worker threads for all online CPUs
> currently. Accessing the online_map could be racy unless we 
> serialize the access with hotplug event (thr' a mutex like workqueue
> mutex held between LOCK_ACQ/LOCK_RELEASE messages or process freezer)
> OR take special measures as was done in flush_workqueue. How were
> you considering to deal with that raciness?

This is easy to fix in multiple ways. For example (this is not the best
approach), we can make cpu_creation_map. Like cpu_populate_map, but CPU
is cleared on CPU_DEAD/CPU_UP_CANCELED.

I'll continue when I have a time.

> > > What abt stopping that thread in CPU_DOWN_PREPARE (before freezing
> > > processes)? I understand that it may add to the latency, but compared to
> > > the overall latency of process freezer, I suspect it may not be much.
> 
> I meant issuing kthread_stop() in DOWN_PREPARE so that worker
> thread exits itself (much before CPU is actually brought down).

Deadlock if work_struct re-queues itself.

> Even if there are problems with it, how abt something like below:
> 
> workqueue_cpu_callback()
> {
> 
> 	CPU_DEAD:
> 		/* threads are still frozen at this point */
> 		take_over_work();

No, we can't move a currently executing work. This will break flush_workxxx().

> 		kthread_mark_stop(worker_thread);
> 		break;
> 
> 	CPU_CLEAN_THREADS:
> 		/* all threads resumed by now */
> 		kthread_stop(worker_thread); /* task_struct ref required? */

yes, required,

> kthread_mark_stop() will mark somewhere in task_struct that the thread
> should exit when it comes out of refrigerator.
> 
> worker_thread()
> {
> 	
>         while (!kthread_should_stop()) {
>                 if (cwq->freezeable)
>                         try_to_freeze();
> 
> 		if (kthread_marked_stop(current))
> 			break;

Racy. Because of kthread_stop() above we should clear cwq->thread somehow.
But we can't do this: this workqueue may be already destroyed.

> The advantage I see above is that, when take_over_work() is running, we wont 
> race with functions like flush_workqueue() (threads still frozen at that
> point) and hence we avoid hacks like migrate_sequence.

See above.

Please note that the code I posted does something like kthread_mark_stop(), but
it operates on cwq, not on task_struct, this makes a big difference. And it doesn't
need take_over_work() at all. And it doesn't need additional complications. Instead,
it lessens both the source and compiled code.

Note that I am not against using freezer for cpu-hotplug. My point is that this
can't help much for the current workqueue.c, and it will completely transparent
with the change I suggest.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-16 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-17 22:34 [PATCH, RFC] reimplement flush_workqueue() Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-18  3:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-19  0:27 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-19  0:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-12-19  1:00     ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 11:32     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 14:29       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 15:56         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 16:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 16:57             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 17:18         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-04 18:09           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-04 18:31             ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-05  9:03               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 14:07                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:24                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05  8:56           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-05 12:42             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:11               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 15:10           ` [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 15:45             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 16:30               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 16:38                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-06 17:34                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 10:43                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 12:56                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 14:22                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 14:42                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 16:43                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:01                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:33                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 17:18                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-07 16:21                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 17:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-06 19:11                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-06 19:13                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-07 11:00                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 19:59                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-07 21:01                         ` [PATCH] flush_cpu_workqueue: don't flush an empty ->worklist Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 23:54                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09  5:04                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09  5:26                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09  6:56                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-09  9:33                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09  9:44                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-09  9:51                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 10:09                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 10:15                                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-09 15:07                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-09 15:59                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 16:38                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-09 16:46                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 16:56                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-14 23:54                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15  4:33                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-15 12:54                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 13:08                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-15 16:18                                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-15 16:55                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-16  5:26                                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-16 13:27                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-01-17  6:17                                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-17 15:47                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 16:12                                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-17 17:01                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-17 16:25                                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-07 21:51                         ` [PATCH] fix-flush_workqueue-vs-cpu_dead-race-update Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 15:22                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-08 15:56                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 16:31                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-08 17:06                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 18:37                                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2007-01-09  1:11                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09  4:39                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-09 14:38                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-08 15:37                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 12:02 ` [PATCH, RFC] reimplement flush_workqueue() Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-01-04 14:38   ` Oleg Nesterov

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